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Hi all
Does anyone have any evidence or advise about the need to use P2 N/95 masks for intravesicular instillation of BCG? My understanding is that the current product comes in a closed system for instillation, so in my view an N95 masks need not be worn during the instillation process. Does anyone have any evidence or advice on this?
Thanks
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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Hi Michael
I cannot see any reply to your question regarding P2/N95 mask and BCG
instillation for bladder cancer. I have not got any reference to your
specific question but I have plenty of experience with BCG as a BCG
vaccinator and laboratory reception of urine from treated patients.
Bladder installation might be using a closed system, however, that is not
the only risk of exposure. If a cystoscope is used it will be contaminated.
The Urine from the BCG infected bladder will be positive for mycobacteria
for some time ( laboratory experience) and staff might be handling the
urine, if the patient is catheterised, and can get exposed from that
source. As a BCG vaccinator, I never used masks of any kind as I found eye
protection and protection from needle sticks most important, and in your
scenario handling contaminated equipment and BCG colonised urine.
Regarding the choice of mask, in my opinion, P2 would suffice as droplet
exposure is the most like risk.
Best wishes
Mona
Mona Schousboe
FRCPA, MPHOn Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:26 PM Michael Wishart
wrote:> Hi all
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> Does anyone have any evidence or advise about the need to use P2 N/95
> masks for intravesicular instillation of BCG? My understanding is that the
> current product comes in a closed system for instillation, so in my view an
> N95 masks need not be worn during the instillation process. Does anyone
> have any evidence or advice on this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
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> *Michael Wishart *| Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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Hi Michael,
These guidelines are a little old now (2012), however they do reference wearing an N95 mask.
Kind Regards
Terry McAuley
Director
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Intravesicular BCG instillation and P2/N95 mask useHi Michael
I cannot see any reply to your question regarding P2/N95 mask and BCG instillation for bladder cancer. I have not got any reference to your specific question but I have plenty of experience with BCG as a BCG vaccinator and laboratory reception of urine from treated patients.
Bladder installation might be using a closed system, however, that is not the only risk of exposure. If a cystoscope is used it will be contaminated. The Urine from the BCG infected bladder will be positive for mycobacteria for some time ( laboratory experience) and staff might be handling the urine, if the patient is catheterised, and can get exposed from that source. As a BCG vaccinator, I never used masks of any kind as I found eye protection and protection from needle sticks most important, and in your scenario handling contaminated equipment and BCG colonised urine. Regarding the choice of mask, in my opinion, P2 would suffice as droplet exposure is the most like risk.
Best wishes
Mona
Mona Schousboe
FRCPA, MPHOn Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:26 PM Michael Wishart <Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au> wrote:
Hi allDoes anyone have any evidence or advise about the need to use P2 N/95 masks for intravesicular instillation of BCG? My understanding is that the current product comes in a closed system for instillation, so in my view an N95 masks need not be worn during the instillation process. Does anyone have any evidence or advice on this?
Thanks
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
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