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  • #76309
    Philip Russo
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    Monash University

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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76318
    Anonymous
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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76320
    Greg Whiteley
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    John
    Where is the information on surface hygiene and the use of TGA compliant cleaning and disinfecting technologies?
    Kindly
    Greg Whiteley PhD

    On Tuesday, 18 February 2020 John Ferguson (Hunter New England LHD) wrote:

    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards

    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA

    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District

    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76319
    Anonymous
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    Hello Everyone.

    On the back of John Ferguson’s comment. How does one go about implementing fit test training that is, is there an accredited course or Trainer one can co-opt to educate staff? Do any of the mask companies provide this training. Would be interested in how other sites meet this compliance requirement as we are as small private hospital licensed 78 beds.

    With Thanks

    Liz Vanderlinde
    Infection Prevention Control Co-ordinator
    North West Private Hospital
    [Description: hca_luye_logo]
    Brickport Road, Burnie TAS 7320, Australia
    T +61 3 6432 6005 F +61 3 6431 5766
    E liz.vanderlinde@healthecare.com.au W
    Healthe Care Hospitals are accredited by ACHS NSQHS Standards or ACHS EQuIP National
    [Description: achs][Description: equip]
    QIC Standards
    [Description: qic]

    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
    T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial 67607) | Tw @mdjkf
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76321
    robertsh@sath.org.au
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    Hi Liz,

    I would like the information in regards to fit testing as well. Currently I do a fit check.

    Thanks
    Helen

    Helen Roberts
    Infection Control
    P: 07 4646 3106 |
    F: 07 4633 7602
    E: robertsh@sath.org.au |
    W: http://www.sath.org.au

    Hello Everyone.

    On the back of John Ferguson’s comment. How does one go about implementing fit test training that is, is there an accredited course or Trainer one can co-opt to educate staff? Do any of the mask companies provide this training. Would be interested in how other sites meet this compliance requirement as we are as small private hospital licensed 78 beds.

    With Thanks

    Liz Vanderlinde
    Infection Prevention Control Co-ordinator
    North West Private Hospital
    [Description: hca_luye_logo]
    Brickport Road, Burnie TAS 7320, Australia
    T +61 3 6432 6005 F +61 3 6431 5766
    E liz.vanderlinde@healthecare.com.au W
    Healthe Care Hospitals are accredited by ACHS NSQHS Standards or ACHS EQuIP National
    [Description: achs][Description: equip]
    QIC Standards
    [Description: qic]

    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
    T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial 67607) | Tw @mdjkf
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76322
    Anonymous
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    Dear All

    Just commentary and noting that this page John refers to was last updated in 2008

    There has been further discussions since then re the cost implications of fit testing and scientific evidence to support the practice.

    The Australian ICGs also recommend that when removing PPE that protective eyewear is the 2nd item to be removed this was subject to considerable debate during ebola preparedness and some jurisdictions now have different removal sequences to protect eyes.

    Kindest

    Rebecca

    Rebecca McCann | Program Manager | Healthcare Associated Infection Unit (HAIU)
    Communicable Disease Control Directorate
    Department of Health

    T: 08 9222 2043 M: 0439 920 819 E: rebecca.mccann@health.wa.gov.au

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2020 8:54 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi Liz,

    I would like the information in regards to fit testing as well. Currently I do a fit check.

    Thanks
    Helen

    Helen Roberts

    Infection Control

    P:

    07 4646 3106

    |

    F:

    07 4633 7602

    E:

    robertsh@sath.org.au

    |

    W:

    http://www.sath.org.au

    Post:

    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

    Address:

    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of VANDERLINDE, Liz
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2020 9:38 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hello Everyone.

    On the back of John Fergusons comment. How does one go about implementing fit test training that is, is there an accredited course or Trainer one can co-opt to educate staff? Do any of the mask companies provide this training. Would be interested in how other sites meet this compliance requirement as we are as small private hospital licensed 78 beds.

    With Thanks

    Liz Vanderlinde
    Infection Prevention Control Co-ordinator
    North West Private Hospital
    [Description: hca_luye_logo]
    Brickport Road, Burnie TAS 7320, Australia
    T +61 3 6432 6005 F +61 3 6431 5766
    E liz.vanderlinde@healthecare.com.au W
    Healthe Care Hospitals are accredited by ACHS NSQHS Standards or ACHS EQuIP National
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    QIC Standards
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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
    [cid:image003.png@01D5E5D3.7A05FA90]

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
    T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial 67607) | Tw @mdjkf
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Philip Russo
    Sent: Friday, 14 February 2020 8:04 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76323
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    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    * on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route

    * when there is significant change to the wearer’s facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)

    * annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)

    * link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    * Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff

    * Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
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    #76326
    Chris Pollard
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    Hi All,

    Please refer to this SA Health report:

    Evaluation of a large-scale quantitative respirator-fit testing program for healthcare workers: survey results.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20658919

    Kind regards

    [cid:image007.png@01D3A1A9.77E508C0]

    Chris Pollard
    Sales Engineer
    Kenelec Scientific Pty Ltd, 23 Redland Drive, Mitcham VIC 3132
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    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    * on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route
    * when there is significant change to the wearer’s facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)
    * annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)
    * link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    * Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff
    * Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
    [cid:image003.png@01D5E5D3.7A05FA90]

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    [cid:image005.png@01D41F3E.1B59CB50]

    [cid:image002.png@01D5E5D2.A3686B80]

    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76327
    Holly Seale
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    Hi,

    If organisations are contemplating qualitative fit testing of staff members, it should be noted that there are also differences in results between using the sweet and bitter solutions in the 3M qualitative kit. My understanding is that you get better results with the bitter solution but not all people can taste it.

    However, the key thing here is to ensure that you have different sizes of respirators available and also different shapes- a duckbill shaped/flat fold product does not suit all face shapes. Instead, people without a prominent bridge to their nose should be using a cupped version.

    Cheers

    Holly

    Dr Holly Seale
    Senior Lecturer

    Program Director: Bachelor of International Public Health (BIPH) and Course Convenor (Infectious Disease Challenges and Internship Program)

    Women in Research Network: Co-Chair

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    Hi All,

    Please refer to this SA Health report:

    Evaluation of a large-scale quantitative respirator-fit testing program for healthcare workers: survey results.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20658919

    Kind regards

    [cid:image007.png@01D3A1A9.77E508C0]

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    [cid:image007.png@01D3BD09.751EBB60]

    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    * on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route
    * when there is significant change to the wearer’s facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)
    * annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)
    * link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    * Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff
    * Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
    [cid:image003.png@01D5E5D3.7A05FA90]

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    #76329
    Anonymous
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    Hi Everyone,

    I think that we should be aware that the CDC actually has two options for PPE removal and our NHMRC only supplies a poster on Option 1.

    With my past history as a scrub nurse, Option 2 makes way more sense to me than Option 1.

    If you havent seen Option 2 here is the link https://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/ppe/ppe-sequence.pdf

    Kind Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Director
    MSc Medical Device Decontamination

    PO BOX 2249, Greenvale VIC Australia 3059
    Mobile: +61 (0)438 109 692
    Email: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
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    Dear All

    Just commentary and noting that this page John refers to was last updated in 2008

    There has been further discussions since then re the cost implications of fit testing and scientific evidence to support the practice.

    The Australian ICGs also recommend that when removing PPE that protective eyewear is the 2nd item to be removed this was subject to considerable debate during ebola preparedness and some jurisdictions now have different removal sequences to protect eyes.

    Kindest

    Rebecca

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
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    Hi Liz,

    I would like the information in regards to fit testing as well. Currently I do a fit check.

    Thanks
    Helen

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of VANDERLINDE, Liz
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    Hello Everyone.

    On the back of John Fergusons comment. How does one go about implementing fit test training that is, is there an accredited course or Trainer one can co-opt to educate staff? Do any of the mask companies provide this training. Would be interested in how other sites meet this compliance requirement as we are as small private hospital licensed 78 beds.

    With Thanks

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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76332
    Deen, Sharon
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    Hi Meredith

    We do not use any special equipment. We do undertake fit testing with new staff and it is a yearly competency for our ED staff. We talk them through the whole process of putting it on, blowing in and out, checking the seal for air leakage and removing safely. We advise on the correct size and discuss issues with beards etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Sharon Deen
    Infection Control Nurse
    Phone:08 9531 8570

    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    * on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route

    * when there is significant change to the wearer’s facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)

    * annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)

    * link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    * Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff

    * Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76334
    Matthew Mason
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    Hi Sharon,
    That sounds like fit checking not fit testing. Fit testing requires the use of the equipment previously mentioned and is a requirement of the respiratory protective equipment standards.
    Cheers Matt

    Lecturer,
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Paramedicine.
    University of the Sunshine Coast

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    Hi Meredith

    We do not use any special equipment. We do undertake fit testing with new staff and it is a yearly competency for our ED staff. We talk them through the whole process of putting it on, blowing in and out, checking the seal for air leakage and removing safely. We advise on the correct size and discuss issues with beards etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Sharon Deen
    Infection Control Nurse
    Phone:08 9531 8570

    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route

    when there is significant change to the wearers facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)

    annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)

    link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff

    Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
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    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

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    #76335
    Anonymous
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    Hi Sharon

    The competency you described sounds more like fit checking than fit testing. Are you able to confirm if you fit test or just fit check?

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Deen, Sharon
    Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2020 2:11 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi Meredith

    We do not use any special equipment. We do undertake fit testing with new staff and it is a yearly competency for our ED staff. We talk them through the whole process of putting it on, blowing in and out, checking the seal for air leakage and removing safely. We advise on the correct size and discuss issues with beards etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Sharon Deen
    Infection Control Nurse
    Phone:08 9531 8570

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Meredith Southon (Northern NSW LHD)
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:30 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route

    when there is significant change to the wearers facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)

    annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)

    link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff

    Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of John Ferguson (Hunter New England LHD)
    Sent: Monday, 17 February 2020 8:53 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Philip Russo
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    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76336
    Chris Pollard
    Participant

    Author:
    Chris Pollard

    Email:
    chris.pollard@kenelec.com.au

    Organisation:
    Kenelec Scientific

    State:
    VIC

    Hi Sharon,

    Dont confuse the terms Fit Check with Fit Test they are different processes and the Quantitative Fit Test method is the only way of getting non subjective results.

    Kind regards

    Chris Pollard
    Kenelec Scientific
    0437 007 810

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Deen, Sharon
    Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2020 2:11 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi Meredith

    We do not use any special equipment. We do undertake fit testing with new staff and it is a yearly competency for our ED staff. We talk them through the whole process of putting it on, blowing in and out, checking the seal for air leakage and removing safely. We advise on the correct size and discuss issues with beards etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Sharon Deen
    Infection Control Nurse
    Phone:08 9531 8570

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Meredith Southon (Northern NSW LHD)
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:30 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi John

    The 2019 Australian Guidelines p. 116 recommends fit testing as follows:

    * on commencement of employment for HCWs in clinical areas where there is a significant risk of exposure via airborne route
    * when there is significant change to the wearers facial characteristics (eg. weight loss or gain, etc)
    * annually thereafter (AS/NZS 1715:2009)
    * link here https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019#block-views-block-file-attachments-content-block-1

    There are two types of fit testing:

    * Qualitative – inexpensive equipment (approximately $400 per kit) requires hood and sprays, company rep can provide training to staff to perform fit testing, human resources required to perform fit testing on staff
    * Quantitative – expensive equipment, generally performed by mask company reps where a good seal cannot be obtained via a qualitative approach

    It is my understanding that all HCFs are recommended to undertake fit testing for staff, however my observation is that very few do. I am aware of two HCFs that participate in fit testing (1 x major public hospital and 1 private hospital).

    It would be interesting to know how many other HCFs participate in fit testing.

    Kind regards

    Meredith Southon
    Meredith Southon RN MIPC QualNursImm
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control | Staff Health | Murwillumbah District Hospital
    PO Box 821, Murwillumbah NSW 2484
    Tel 02 6672 0232 | Fax 02 6672 0226 | Meredith.Southon@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.health.nsw.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of John Ferguson (Hunter New England LHD)
    Sent: Monday, 17 February 2020 8:53 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    Hi all,

    Is anyone concerned that this (and other statements) ignores the requirement for fit testing of staff who are going to rely on airborne mask protection?

    Btw, CEC NSW have developed nice combined Contact/Droplet signage for those with geographical signage space deficiency (GSSD). Kathy D am sure will share it.

    Regards
    John

    [We are being directed to this commonwealth site btw which does have a nice video on methods etc

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/safe-use-dvd
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    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Local Health District
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Philip Russo
    Sent: Friday, 14 February 2020 8:04 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

    An information sheet with interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19).

    Available here

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/interim-recommendations-for-the-use-of-personal-protective-equipment-ppe-during-hospital-care-of-people-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

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    #76396
    Glenys Harrington
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    Author:
    Glenys Harrington

    Email:
    infexion@ozemail.com.au

    Organisation:
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    State:

    Hi Phil,

    I’m seeking some clarification in relation to the information sheet with
    interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE)
    during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) you
    posted below.

    Specifically the number of times staff are required to wash their hand when
    removing PPE as per instruction below:

    *Perform hand hygiene before donning gown, gloves, eye protection
    (goggles or face shield) and a P2/N95 respirator, which should be
    fit-checked.
    *After the consultation, remove gown and gloves, perform hand
    hygiene, remove eye protection perform hand hygiene, remove P2/N95
    respirator and perform hand hygiene. Do not touch the front of any item of
    PPE during removal, perform hand hygiene at any point contamination may have
    occurred.
    *The room surfaces should be wiped clean with detergent/disinfectant
    by a person wearing gloves, gown and surgical mask.
    *The room should be left vacant with the door closed for at least 30
    minutes after specimen collection (cleaning can be performed during this
    time by a person wearing PPE).

    My understanding is that this requirement is specific to Ebola and is not
    necessary for Coronavirus?

    I note it is not a requirement in the CDC guidelines – Interim Infection
    Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed
    Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) or Persons Under Investigation for
    COVID-19 in Healthcare Settings. Updated February 21, 2020

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommen
    dations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-nc
    ov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.html

    Are you or anyone else on the advisory group able to clarify furtther?

    Many thanks in anticipation.

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    P.O. Box 6385

    Melbourne

    Australia, 3004

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