Insulin pen cartridges / devices

[Michael Wishart]

Hi all

We are having a debate here about using normal needle/syringe combinations to draw insulin out of pen cartridges / devices instead of using specific pen needles. My brain is telling me that somewhere in my dark, distant past, someone has raised an issue about coring of pen cartridge rubber stoppers when using non-pen needles to access them. I can’t seem to find anything to verify or support this, though. Does anyone have any guidelines, research or articles that discuss this issue?

Thanks
Michael

Michael Wishart
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[SAWMH.ICC]

Good morning Michael,

We’ve moved to safety drawing up needles and currently use 2 kinds.
The blunt needles for ampules only, because these cause corking through a rubber stopper and the bevelled end needles for drawing up from vials with rubber stoppers. We don’t seem to have a problem by using these needles this way.

I’m happy to discuss further off line

Kind regards

Marlize Senekal / Infection Prevention and Control Coordinator
St. Andrew’s War Memorial Hospital
457 Wickham Terrace, Brisbane, QLD 4001 / P.O. Box
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Hi all

We are having a debate here about using normal needle/syringe combinations to draw insulin out of pen cartridges / devices instead of using specific pen needles. My brain is telling me that somewhere in my dark, distant past, someone has raised an issue about coring of pen cartridge rubber stoppers when using non-pen needles to access them. I can’t seem to find anything to verify or support this, though. Does anyone have any guidelines, research or articles that discuss this issue?

Thanks
Michael

Michael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
e: Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
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[sue.e.atkins@health.vic.gov.au]

Michael,

I think insulin can only be drawn with
a needle and syringe from a penfill/cartridge in an emergency situation
and then discarded immediately after use. Maybe check emims/ manufacturer
instructions for this information for the particular insulin types you
use. There are different recommendations for vials and cartridges. Some
cartridges contain a glass ball to facilitate re-suspension. This could
be damaged if drawing up from a cartridge with a needle.

Regards

Sue

	Sue Atkins Regional Infection Control Consultant | CICP | Service & Workforce Development | Grampians Region Department of Health | 35 Armstrong Street South, Ballarat, Victoria, 3350 p. 03 5333 6023 | f. 03 5333 6093 | m. 0438 227 989 e. sue.e.atkins@health.vic.gov.au  | http://www.grhc.org.au

From:	Michael Wishart <Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au>
To:	AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Date:	18/08/2014 02:28 PM
Subject:	Insulin pen cartridges / devices
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Hi all

 

We are having a debate here about using
normal needle/syringe combinations to draw insulin out of pen cartridges
/ devices instead of using specific pen needles. My brain is telling me
that somewhere in my dark, distant past, someone has raised an issue about
coring of pen cartridge rubber stoppers when using non-pen needles to access
them. I cant seem to find anything to verify or support this, though.
Does anyone have any guidelines, research or articles that discuss this
issue?

 

Thanks

Michael

 

Michael Wishart

Infection
Control Coordinator

Holy Spirit
Northside Private Hospital

627 Rode Road,
Chermside, Qld 4032    

t: (07)
3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226

e: Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au

w:http://www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au

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