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    Donna Goltz
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    Hello All,

    Does anyone have any policy surrounding Ice Machine use in hospitals? Does anyone use scoop ice machines? If so, do you have a policy surrounding their use and cleaning? Any information would be useful.

    Thanks,

    Donna Goltz
    Infection Control Coordinator
    Mater Misericordiae Hospital Rockhampton
    Ward Street, ROCKHAMPTON QLD 4700
    T: 07 49313420 |Email: dgoltz@mercycq.com | http://www.mercycq.com
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    Jenny Garland
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    We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
    machine

    Jenny garland CIPC _ P
    Acting Quality Risk and safety officer
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    Mater Health Service North Queensland
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    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
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    #75245
    Joanne
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    Hello All,
    We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
    how do you manage these issues,
    thanks Jo

    Kind Regards,

    Joanne Lovejoy

    Clinical Nurse , Infection Prevention and Management

    South Metropolitan Health Service Rockingham Peel Group

    Level 1, D Block, Elanora Drive, COOLOONGUP WA 6168 Postal address: PO Box 2033, ROCKINGHAM WA 6967

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    We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice

    machine

    Jenny garland CIPC _ P

    Acting Quality Risk and safety officer

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    Hi all,

    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.

    Does anyone have any fores or against?

    Cheers

    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew

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    #75242
    sharyn.hughes@health.nsw.gov.au
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    Dear Kristin,

    So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
    Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
    Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.

    Regards,

    Sharyn Hughes

    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Prevention & Control
    Royal North Shore Hospital
    Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
    Tel 02 99264339

    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
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    The Tweed Hospital

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    #75249
    Wilkinson, Irene (Health)
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    SA Health has a fact sheet on Legionella risk in chilled water and ice machines, available from:
    https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+internet/clinical+resources/clinical+topics/healthcare+associated+infections/prevention+and+management+of+infections+in+healthcare+settings/environmental+hygiene+in+healthcare
    Irene Wilkinson
    Director, Infection Control Service (Tues – Fri)
    Communicable Disease Control Branch
    Public Health & Clinical Systems
    SA Health
    Government of South Australia

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    Dear Kristin,

    So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
    Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
    Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.

    Regards,

    Sharyn Hughes

    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Prevention & Control
    Royal North Shore Hospital
    Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
    Tel 02 99264339

    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

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    #75254
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    Thank you everyone for the great resources!

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

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    SA Health has a fact sheet on Legionella risk in chilled water and ice machines, available from:
    https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+internet/clinical+resources/clinical+topics/healthcare+associated+infections/prevention+and+management+of+infections+in+healthcare+settings/environmental+hygiene+in+healthcare
    Irene Wilkinson
    Director, Infection Control Service (Tues – Fri)
    Communicable Disease Control Branch
    Public Health & Clinical Systems
    SA Health
    Government of South Australia

    http://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/infectionprevention
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    Dear Kristin,

    So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
    Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
    Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.

    Regards,

    Sharyn Hughes

    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Prevention & Control
    Royal North Shore Hospital
    Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
    Tel 02 99264339

    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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    #75255
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    Hi Joanne,
    Due to the risk of contamination of ice machines with Legionella we use a 0.2 micron filtered outlet in the kitchen and fill ice bags to produce ice for human consumption. The bags have a sticker placed on the outside with use by date & we give the ice a shelf life of 2 weeks. The wards order sheets of ice for their pantry freezers, just as they do other pantry items. I am not aware of any complaints from staff or patients about the process and we have been using this system for a few years now.

    Regards
    Kathy

    Kathy Taylor- Infection Control Manager
    The Wesley Hospital | 451 Coronation Drive, Auchenflower QLD 4066
    t: 07 3232 7558 |m: 0427 607 812 | f: 07 3232 6043 |e: katherine.taylor@uchealth.com.au

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joanne
    Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 9:47 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machines

    Hello All,
    We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
    how do you manage these issues,
    thanks Jo

    Kind Regards,

    Joanne Lovejoy

    Clinical Nurse , Infection Prevention and Management
    South Metropolitan Health Service Rockingham Peel Group
    Level 1, D Block, Elanora Drive, COOLOONGUP WA 6168 Postal address: PO Box 2033, ROCKINGHAM WA 6967
    T:9599 4634 l F:95994670
    E: Joanne.Lovejoy@health.wa.gov.au
    http://www.southmetropolitan.health.wa.gov.au
    http://www.rkpg.health.wa.gov.au

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    From: Jenny Garland
    Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 4:52 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machines

    We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
    machine
    Jenny garland CIPC _ P
    Acting Quality Risk and safety officer
    quality risk infection control officer
    Mater Health Service North Queensland
    Jenny.garland@matertsv.org.au
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    From: Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD)
    Sent: Wednesday, 20 March, 04:36
    Subject: Ice machines
    To: acipclist@acipc.org.au

    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fores or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital
    Ph: 0755067406
    Mobile: 0427112213

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    Hi Joanne,
    During the redevelopment of Forbes Hospital in 2015 we looked at this issue. In the Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and Control of Infection in Healthcare, Part C, page 237 it states

    Ice machines
    Ice storage receptacles and ice-making machines should be properly maintained and regularly
    cleaned. Ice and ice-making machines may be contaminated through improper handling of ice
    by patients and/or staff. Ice for human consumption should be differentiated from ice for first aid
    or storage of clinical specimens. Pharmaceuticals or medical solutions should not be stored on ice
    intended for consumption.
    Machines that dispense ice are preferable to those that require ice to be removed from bins or
    chests with a scoop. Ice machines and their dispensers should be flushed and cleaned if they
    have not been disconnected before anticipated lengthy water disruptions

    We purchased the ice machines that dispense the ice directly into a cup and placed one each in the Birthing Suites, Recovery ward & Inpatient Unit. Maintenance has them on their preventative maintenance calendar for 6 monthly checks.
    So far we have had no issues with them.
    Cheers,
    Teresa

    Teresa Holland
    IP&C and Staff Health Nurse, WHS Coordinator
    Lachlan Health Service Forbes & Parkes
    Forbes ph:68507100 fax:68502245
    Parkes ph: 68612400 fax:68623921
    Email: Teresa.Holland@health.nsw.gov.au
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joanne
    Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 10:47 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machines

    Hello All,
    We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
    how do you manage these issues,
    thanks Jo

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    From: Jenny Garland
    Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 4:52 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machines

    We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
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    From: Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD)
    Sent: Wednesday, 20 March, 04:36
    Subject: Ice machines
    To: acipclist@acipc.org.au

    Hi all,
    I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
    Does anyone have any fores or against?
    Cheers
    Kristin

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