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08/02/2016 at 1:54 pm #72747
Hello All,
Does anyone have any policy surrounding Ice Machine use in hospitals? Does anyone use scoop ice machines? If so, do you have a policy surrounding their use and cleaning? Any information would be useful.
Thanks,
Donna Goltz
Infection Control Coordinator
Mater Misericordiae Hospital Rockhampton
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20/03/2019 at 7:52 pm #75241We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
machineJenny garland CIPC _ P
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Mater Health Service North Queensland
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I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
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20/03/2019 at 10:46 pm #75245Hello All,
We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
how do you manage these issues,
thanks JoKind Regards,
Joanne Lovejoy
Clinical Nurse , Infection Prevention and Management
South Metropolitan Health Service Rockingham Peel Group
Level 1, D Block, Elanora Drive, COOLOONGUP WA 6168 Postal address: PO Box 2033, ROCKINGHAM WA 6967
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We only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
machine
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Mater Health Service North Queensland
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Hi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fores or against?
Cheers
Kristin
Kristin Ryan-Agnew
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21/03/2019 at 9:23 am #75242sharyn.hughes@health.nsw.gov.au
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Dear Kristin,
So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.Regards,
Sharyn Hughes
Clinical Nurse Consultant
Infection Prevention & Control
Royal North Shore Hospital
Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
Tel 02 99264339Hi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
Cheers
KristinKristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital[cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections
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21/03/2019 at 12:42 pm #75249Wilkinson, Irene (Health)
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SA Health has a fact sheet on Legionella risk in chilled water and ice machines, available from:
https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+internet/clinical+resources/clinical+topics/healthcare+associated+infections/prevention+and+management+of+infections+in+healthcare+settings/environmental+hygiene+in+healthcare
Irene Wilkinson
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Communicable Disease Control Branch
Public Health & Clinical Systems
SA Health
Government of South Australiahttp://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/infectionprevention
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So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.Regards,
Sharyn Hughes
Clinical Nurse Consultant
Infection Prevention & Control
Royal North Shore Hospital
Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
Tel 02 99264339Hi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
Cheers
KristinKristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital[cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections
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22/03/2019 at 7:04 am #75254Anonymous
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Thank you everyone for the great resources!
Kristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital[cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections
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I acknowledge the Bundjalung people as traditional owners of the land on which I work and live.
‘Bulla Yana Yabur’ Standing Together As OneSA Health has a fact sheet on Legionella risk in chilled water and ice machines, available from:
https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+internet/clinical+resources/clinical+topics/healthcare+associated+infections/prevention+and+management+of+infections+in+healthcare+settings/environmental+hygiene+in+healthcare
Irene Wilkinson
Director, Infection Control Service (Tues – Fri)
Communicable Disease Control Branch
Public Health & Clinical Systems
SA Health
Government of South Australiahttp://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/infectionprevention
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So long as they are well maintained the associated risks can be managed.
Ice-machines are installed in each ward area within our campus. These machines are on an ongoing annual maintenance schedule and includes sanitation.
Public Health Units undertake their own quarterly water sampling from across the campus and provide the results back to IPAC and engineering department. This provides qualitative water testing results to supplement the monthly testing that is undertaken by engineering.Regards,
Sharyn Hughes
Clinical Nurse Consultant
Infection Prevention & Control
Royal North Shore Hospital
Reserve Rd St Leonards 2065
Tel 02 99264339Hi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fore’s or against?
Cheers
KristinKristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital[cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections
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22/03/2019 at 8:26 am #75255Anonymous
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Hi Joanne,
Due to the risk of contamination of ice machines with Legionella we use a 0.2 micron filtered outlet in the kitchen and fill ice bags to produce ice for human consumption. The bags have a sticker placed on the outside with use by date & we give the ice a shelf life of 2 weeks. The wards order sheets of ice for their pantry freezers, just as they do other pantry items. I am not aware of any complaints from staff or patients about the process and we have been using this system for a few years now.Regards
KathyKathy Taylor- Infection Control Manager
The Wesley Hospital | 451 Coronation Drive, Auchenflower QLD 4066
t: 07 3232 7558 |m: 0427 607 812 | f: 07 3232 6043 |e: katherine.taylor@uchealth.com.auFrom: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joanne
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machinesHello All,
We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
how do you manage these issues,
thanks JoKind Regards,
Joanne Lovejoy
Clinical Nurse , Infection Prevention and Management
South Metropolitan Health Service Rockingham Peel Group
Level 1, D Block, Elanora Drive, COOLOONGUP WA 6168 Postal address: PO Box 2033, ROCKINGHAM WA 6967
T:9599 4634 l F:95994670
E: Joanne.Lovejoy@health.wa.gov.au
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machinesWe only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
machine
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Mater Health Service North Queensland
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Sent: Wednesday, 20 March, 04:36
Subject: Ice machines
To: acipclist@acipc.org.auHi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fores or against?
Cheers
KristinKristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital
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22/03/2019 at 9:10 am #75256Teresa Holland (Western NSW LHD)
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Hi Joanne,
During the redevelopment of Forbes Hospital in 2015 we looked at this issue. In the Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and Control of Infection in Healthcare, Part C, page 237 it statesIce machines
Ice storage receptacles and ice-making machines should be properly maintained and regularly
cleaned. Ice and ice-making machines may be contaminated through improper handling of ice
by patients and/or staff. Ice for human consumption should be differentiated from ice for first aid
or storage of clinical specimens. Pharmaceuticals or medical solutions should not be stored on ice
intended for consumption.
Machines that dispense ice are preferable to those that require ice to be removed from bins or
chests with a scoop. Ice machines and their dispensers should be flushed and cleaned if they
have not been disconnected before anticipated lengthy water disruptionsWe purchased the ice machines that dispense the ice directly into a cup and placed one each in the Birthing Suites, Recovery ward & Inpatient Unit. Maintenance has them on their preventative maintenance calendar for 6 monthly checks.
So far we have had no issues with them.
Cheers,
TeresaTeresa Holland
IP&C and Staff Health Nurse, WHS Coordinator
Lachlan Health Service Forbes & Parkes
Forbes ph:68507100 fax:68502245
Parkes ph: 68612400 fax:68623921
Email: Teresa.Holland@health.nsw.gov.au
[cid:image001.png@01CF595B.B0F58490]From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joanne
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 10:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machinesHello All,
We are looking at our Ice Machines currently. We are finding we need ice for human consumption, Speech therapy use it, surgical patients, Pts. nil orally suck on it etc.
how do you manage these issues,
thanks JoKind Regards,
Joanne Lovejoy
Clinical Nurse , Infection Prevention and Management
South Metropolitan Health Service Rockingham Peel Group
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From: Jenny Garland
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 4:52 PM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ice machinesWe only have ice machine for procedures we do not have ice for human consumption due to risk of legionella in ice
machine
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Get Outlook for AndroidFrom: Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD)
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March, 04:36
Subject: Ice machines
To: acipclist@acipc.org.auHi all,
I remember there was some discussion on the efficacy of ice machines in healthcare at conference last year.
Does anyone have any fores or against?
Cheers
KristinKristin Ryan-Agnew
Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
The Tweed Hospital
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