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    Mayer, Jo
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    Mayer, Jo

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    Dear All,

    I am wondering what sites that utilize disinfection systems such as hydrogen peroxide vapour as part of a two-step clean are doing since the release of the updated NHMRC Guidelines.
    I would grateful for any commentary around this.

    Kind Regards

    Jo Mayer
    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
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    #75782
    Mayer, Jo
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    Mayer, Jo

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    Good Morning All,

    I am still hoping for thoughts and feedback around the hydrogen peroxide vapour sprays, are any of you using these systems and if so what are your thoughts following the release of the latest NHMRC guidelines, e.g will you continue to use, and in which instances do you use it?

    Looking forward in anticipation of any comments and thoughts about this.

    Kind Regards
    Jo
    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
    Phone:08 9346 6479

    Dear All,

    I am wondering what sites that utilize disinfection systems such as hydrogen peroxide vapour as part of a two-step clean are doing since the release of the updated NHMRC Guidelines.
    I would grateful for any commentary around this.

    Kind Regards

    Jo Mayer
    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
    [http://www.ramsayhealth.com/~/media/Images/email/email-RHC-logo]
    Hollywood Private Hospital
    Infection Control
    Phone:
    08 9346 6479
    Fax:
    08 9330 2368
    Email:
    MayerJ@ramsayhealth.com.au
    Web:
    http://www.ramsayhealth.com
    Address:
    Monash Avenue, Nedlands WA 6009
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    #75786
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart

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    [Posted on behalf of member moderator]

    We used a hydrogen peroxide vapour spray unit for several years. We have stopped using it for a number of reasons

    1. It was expensive and was being over used especially after hours.

    2. Those using it had a real problem with remembering that the room and equipment had to be cleaned first- it was very attractive to simply put it into a room, switch it on and close the door on it. We had incidences where the bed had not even been stripped of its linen before it was used. In short it was being seen as an easy way to terminally disinfect a room.

    3. It was actually more time consuming and meant rooms were unavailable longer especially relevant in ED when they kept using in the isolation room after hours.

    4. The NHMRC guidelines gave us evidence to take it out of service.

    In theory it seemed a great product but as people refused to use it correctly, use of the system became more hazardous than advantageous.

    Cathy Mowat
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Prevention and Control
    Central Gippsland Health
    T. 03 5143 8518
    E. cathy.mowat@cghs.com.au

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Mayer, Jo
    Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 2:11 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Hydrogen peroxide vapour systems and NHMRC guidelines

    Good Morning All,

    I am still hoping for thoughts and feedback around the hydrogen peroxide vapour sprays, are any of you using these systems and if so what are your thoughts following the release of the latest NHMRC guidelines, e.g will you continue to use, and in which instances do you use it?

    Looking forward in anticipation of any comments and thoughts about this.

    Kind Regards
    Jo
    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
    Phone:08 9346 6479

    From: Mayer, Jo
    Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:36 PM
    To: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU>
    Subject: Hydrogen peroxide vapour systems and NHMRC guidelines

    Dear All,

    I am wondering what sites that utilize disinfection systems such as hydrogen peroxide vapour as part of a two-step clean are doing since the release of the updated NHMRC Guidelines.
    I would grateful for any commentary around this.

    Kind Regards

    Jo Mayer
    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
    [http://www.ramsayhealth.com/~/media/Images/email/email-RHC-logo]
    Hollywood Private Hospital
    Infection Control
    Phone:
    08 9346 6479
    Fax:
    08 9330 2368
    Email:
    MayerJ@ramsayhealth.com.au
    Web:
    http://www.ramsayhealth.com
    Address:
    Monash Avenue, Nedlands WA 6009
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    #75803
    Glenys Harrington
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    Glenys Harrington

    Email:
    infexion@ozemail.com.au

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    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

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    Hi Jo,

    There is now ample evidence that no-touch systems can reduce environmental contamination with health careassociated pathogens.

    As there can be considerable variability in the design, function and capabilities of such systems (i.e. Hydrogen peroxide vapour vs. aerosol, low-concentration hydrogen peroxide system vs. a high-concentration hydrogen peroxide system) the selection and/or continued use of such systems should:

    be dependent on review of the peer-reviewed literature

    verification of bactericidal capability assessed by carrier test method and/or ability to disinfect actual rooms and preferably

    demonstration that the system has the ability to reduce healthcare associated infections.

    A recent review by Rutala and Webber on Best practices for disinfection of noncritical environmental surfaces and equipment in health care facilities will be of interest/use.

    William A. Rutala PhD, MPH, David J. Weber MD, MPH. Best practices for disinfection of noncritical environmental surfaces and equipment in health care facilities: A bundle approach. American Journal of Infection Control 47 (2019) A96A105. https://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(19)30055-0/fulltext

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    P.O. Box 6385

    Melbourne

    Australia, 3004

    M: +61 404816434

    E: infexion@ozemail.com.au

    [Posted on behalf of member moderator]

    We used a hydrogen peroxide vapour spray unit for several years. We have stopped using it for a number of reasons

    1. It was expensive and was being over used especially after hours.

    2. Those using it had a real problem with remembering that the room and equipment had to be cleaned first- it was very attractive to simply put it into a room, switch it on and close the door on it. We had incidences where the bed had not even been stripped of its linen before it was used. In short it was being seen as an easy way to terminally disinfect a room.

    3. It was actually more time consuming and meant rooms were unavailable longer especially relevant in ED when they kept using in the isolation room after hours.

    4. The NHMRC guidelines gave us evidence to take it out of service.

    In theory it seemed a great product but as people refused to use it correctly, use of the system became more hazardous than advantageous.

    Cathy Mowat

    Clinical Nurse Consultant

    Infection Prevention and Control

    Central Gippsland Health

    T. 03 5143 8518

    E. cathy.mowat@cghs.com.au

    Good Morning All,

    I am still hoping for thoughts and feedback around the hydrogen peroxide vapour sprays, are any of you using these systems and if so what are your thoughts following the release of the latest NHMRC guidelines, e.g will you continue to use, and in which instances do you use it?

    Looking forward in anticipation of any comments and thoughts about this.

    Kind Regards

    Jo

    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager
    Phone:08 9346 6479

    Dear All,

    I am wondering what sites that utilize disinfection systems such as hydrogen peroxide vapour as part of a two-step clean are doing since the release of the updated NHMRC Guidelines.

    I would grateful for any commentary around this.

    Kind Regards

    Jo Mayer

    Jo Mayer
    Infection Control Manager

    http://www.ramsayhealth.com/~/media/Images/email/email-RHC-logo

    Hollywood Private Hospital
    Infection Control

    Phone:

    08 9346 6479

    Fax:

    08 9330 2368

    Email:

    MayerJ@ramsayhealth.com.au

    Web:

    http://www.ramsayhealth.com

    Address:

    Monash Avenue, Nedlands WA 6009

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