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    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre

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    #75437
    Kirrily Whitehead
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    Hi Jenny,

    We trialled separating our data for medicine as well between General, Ortho and Medicine. I created additional ‘Local’ HCW codes for auditing. The local data was a good snapshot to report back to departmental heads however, I discovered when it came to reporting at the end of the Audit Period that the local data didn’t add up to the overall Medical data, so I had to be very careful reproducing data that was apples for apples. This was especially problematic for anyone else access the data from HHA because they would pull ‘Medical Officers’ data which was different to the ‘local’ HCW group data I had created (which was access through a more convoluted process in snapshot reports (HHA)…in the end it became too difficult to manage, so I deleted the local HCW groups from the database.

    I do have hand hygiene auditors in specific wards that collect their own local data between different groups of medical officers and present this at their own departmental meetings. This data is over and above routine auditing where an auditor external to the department has audited.

    Kind Regards
    Kirrily

    [cid:image003.jpg@01D5113C.BB372140]

    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS
    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government
    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs
    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode
    p … 08 89517736
    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au http://www.nt.gov.au/health

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    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre
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    #75438
    karenbooth1@BIGPOND.COM Subject: Re: Hand Hygiene for Medical staff In-Reply-To:
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    HI Jenny,

    I can’t add any details to the conversation re coding for HPs but this may
    be of interest. This article appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald in June
    last year in both online & print versions. I put the printed version in a
    slide for when I give IPC talks to GPs & nurses in primary health care
    network education sessions. It always generates lots of discussion.
    https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/hospital-doctors-neglect-washing-hands-hyg
    iene-20180706-p4zpvv.html

    Kind regards

    Karen

    Karen Booth

    RN BHSCN GAICD

    President APNA

    Australian Primary Health Care Nurses Association

    M: 0411 898 884

    karenbooth1@bigpond.com

    APNA Office
    Level 2, 159 Dorcas St, South Melbourne VIC 3205
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    Whitehead

    Hi Jenny,

    We trialled separating our data for medicine as well between General, Ortho
    and Medicine. I created additional ‘Local’ HCW codes for auditing. The
    local data was a good snapshot to report back to departmental heads however,
    I discovered when it came to reporting at the end of the Audit Period that
    the local data didn’t add up to the overall Medical data, so I had to be
    very careful reproducing data that was apples for apples. This was
    especially problematic for anyone else access the data from HHA because they
    would pull ‘Medical Officers’ data which was different to the ‘local’ HCW
    group data I had created (which was access through a more convoluted process
    in snapshot reports (HHA).in the end it became too difficult to manage, so I
    deleted the local HCW groups from the database.

    I do have hand hygiene auditors in specific wards that collect their own
    local data between different groups of medical officers and present this at
    their own departmental meetings. This data is over and above routine
    auditing where an auditor external to the department has audited.

    Kind Regards

    Kirrily

    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government

    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs

    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode

    p … 08 89517736

    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au
    http://www.nt.gov.au/health

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    Accountable | We are Relevant Today and Ready for Tomorrow | We are
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    > On Behalf Of Jennifer Breen

    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our
    Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups
    (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome
    your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre

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    #75439
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    Hi,

    This US paper describes a very different approach to hand hygiene among physicians, using mindfulness techniques.

    https://qualitysafety.bmj.com/content/qhc/early/2018/02/20/bmjqs-2017-007359.full.pdf

    Kind regards,

    Gillian

    Gillian Ray-Barruel, RN, PhD, MACN
    Senior Research Fellow | QEII Jubilee Hospital | School of Nursing and Midwifery | Alliance for Vascular Access Teaching and Research (AVATAR) | Menzies Health Institute Queensland | Griffith University
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    ________________________________

    HI Jenny,

    I cant add any details to the conversation re coding for HPs but this may be of interest. This article appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald in June last year in both online & print versions. I put the printed version in a slide for when I give IPC talks to GPs & nurses in primary health care network education sessions. It always generates lots of discussion. https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/hospital-doctors-neglect-washing-hands-hygiene-20180706-p4zpvv.html

    Kind regards

    Karen

    Karen Booth

    RN BHSCN GAICD

    President APNA

    Australian Primary Health Care Nurses Association

    M: 0411 898 884

    karenbooth1@bigpond.com

    APNA Office
    Level 2, 159 Dorcas St, South Melbourne VIC 3205
    T: (03) 9669 7400 F: (03) 9669 7499 http://www.apna.asn.au

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    Hi Jenny,

    We trialled separating our data for medicine as well between General, Ortho and Medicine. I created additional Local HCW codes for auditing. The local data was a good snapshot to report back to departmental heads however, I discovered when it came to reporting at the end of the Audit Period that the local data didnt add up to the overall Medical data, so I had to be very careful reproducing data that was apples for apples. This was especially problematic for anyone else access the data from HHA because they would pull Medical Officers data which was different to the local HCW group data I had created (which was access through a more convoluted process in snapshot reports (HHA)in the end it became too difficult to manage, so I deleted the local HCW groups from the database.

    I do have hand hygiene auditors in specific wards that collect their own local data between different groups of medical officers and present this at their own departmental meetings. This data is over and above routine auditing where an auditor external to the department has audited.

    Kind Regards

    Kirrily

    [X]

    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government

    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs

    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode

    p … 08 89517736

    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au http://www.nt.gov.au/health

    Our Vision: Better health outcomes for all Central Australians

    Our Values: Community at the Centre | Equity and Integrity | We are Accountable | We are Relevant Today and Ready for Tomorrow | We are Committed to High Quality Care | We Value our Partnerships

    Central Australia Health Service is a Smoke Free Workplace

    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre

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    #75442
    HAVERS, Sally
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    Hi Kirrily,
    HHA would like to encourage anyone having difficulties with reporting in HHCApp to please get in touch with us at hha@austin.org.au rather than choosing not to use this functionality. Many organisations use local HCW codes and find the reporting really helpful but there is potential for using it incorrectly if a user doesn’t use the reporting function regularly (it is like anything IT – if you don’t use it every day it can be easy to get the wrong information). Alternatively, if there IS a problem with how the data is being reported (which does happen on occasion) we (HHA staff) need to be advised so we can have the error corrected.
    Please feel free to make contact with us if you require further support.
    Kind regards,
    Sally

    Sally Havers
    National Manager
    Hand Hygiene Australia

    c/- Infectious Diseases Dept.
    Austin Health
    PO Box 5555
    Heidelberg 3084
    VIC

    http://www.hha.org.au

    Hi Jenny,

    We trialled separating our data for medicine as well between General, Ortho and Medicine. I created additional ‘Local’ HCW codes for auditing. The local data was a good snapshot to report back to departmental heads however, I discovered when it came to reporting at the end of the Audit Period that the local data didn’t add up to the overall Medical data, so I had to be very careful reproducing data that was apples for apples. This was especially problematic for anyone else access the data from HHA because they would pull ‘Medical Officers’ data which was different to the ‘local’ HCW group data I had created (which was access through a more convoluted process in snapshot reports (HHA)…in the end it became too difficult to manage, so I deleted the local HCW groups from the database.

    I do have hand hygiene auditors in specific wards that collect their own local data between different groups of medical officers and present this at their own departmental meetings. This data is over and above routine auditing where an auditor external to the department has audited.

    Kind Regards
    Kirrily

    [X]

    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS
    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government
    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs
    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode
    p … 08 89517736
    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au http://www.nt.gov.au/health

    Our Vision: Better health outcomes for all Central Australians
    Our Values: Community at the Centre | Equity and Integrity | We are Accountable | We are Relevant Today and Ready for Tomorrow | We are Committed to High Quality Care | We Value our Partnerships

    Central Australia Health Service is a Smoke Free Workplace

    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre
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    #75477
    Kirrily Whitehead
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    Hi Sally,

    Fair comment. I will forward you an example of the discrepancy in data to trouble shoot.

    I’m not going to lie, I just didn’t have the time at the time to work through it when I first discovered it. We still use local HCW codes to separate out the domestics successfully, however we were able to inactivate the Domestic Parent Group because the groups were grouped with defined line management.

    However we could not inactivate the Medical Practitioner parent group because we would have to have had too many medical practitioner groups and too difficult for auditors to know which group they belonged to outside of the obvious wards and I think this caused the discrepancy in data. I’d be very interested hearing from other facilities that have separated medical practitioner HCW Codes and how they manage it.

    We get tremendous pushback from some of the medical Heads of Departments about their dislike and disagreement of the auditing process and I did not want to give them any further reason to discredit the auditing process, by accidently providing them with discrepancy in data.

    Kind Regards
    Kirrily

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    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS
    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government
    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs
    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode
    p … 08 89517736
    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au http://www.nt.gov.au/health

    Our Vision: Better health outcomes for all Central Australians
    Our Values: Community at the Centre | Equity and Integrity | We are Accountable | We are Relevant Today and Ready for Tomorrow | We are Committed to High Quality Care | We Value our Partnerships

    Central Australia Health Service is a Smoke Free Workplace

    Hi Kirrily,
    HHA would like to encourage anyone having difficulties with reporting in HHCApp to please get in touch with us at hha@austin.org.au rather than choosing not to use this functionality. Many organisations use local HCW codes and find the reporting really helpful but there is potential for using it incorrectly if a user doesn’t use the reporting function regularly (it is like anything IT – if you don’t use it every day it can be easy to get the wrong information). Alternatively, if there IS a problem with how the data is being reported (which does happen on occasion) we (HHA staff) need to be advised so we can have the error corrected.
    Please feel free to make contact with us if you require further support.
    Kind regards,
    Sally

    Sally Havers
    National Manager
    Hand Hygiene Australia

    c/- Infectious Diseases Dept.
    Austin Health
    PO Box 5555
    Heidelberg 3084
    VIC

    http://www.hha.org.au

    Hi Jenny,

    We trialled separating our data for medicine as well between General, Ortho and Medicine. I created additional ‘Local’ HCW codes for auditing. The local data was a good snapshot to report back to departmental heads however, I discovered when it came to reporting at the end of the Audit Period that the local data didn’t add up to the overall Medical data, so I had to be very careful reproducing data that was apples for apples. This was especially problematic for anyone else access the data from HHA because they would pull ‘Medical Officers’ data which was different to the ‘local’ HCW group data I had created (which was access through a more convoluted process in snapshot reports (HHA)…in the end it became too difficult to manage, so I deleted the local HCW groups from the database.

    I do have hand hygiene auditors in specific wards that collect their own local data between different groups of medical officers and present this at their own departmental meetings. This data is over and above routine auditing where an auditor external to the department has audited.

    Kind Regards
    Kirrily

    [X]

    Kirrily Whitehead – Infection Prevention and Control CNS
    Infection Prevention and Control Unit | Central Australia Health Service

    Northern Territory Government
    Alice Springs Hopsital, Gap Rd, Alice Springs
    GPO Box 2234, Suburb, NT Postcode
    p … 08 89517736
    e … kirrily.whitehead@nt.gov.au http://www.nt.gov.au/health

    Our Vision: Better health outcomes for all Central Australians
    Our Values: Community at the Centre | Equity and Integrity | We are Accountable | We are Relevant Today and Ready for Tomorrow | We are Committed to High Quality Care | We Value our Partnerships

    Central Australia Health Service is a Smoke Free Workplace

    Good morning,
    We have been asked if it is feasible to provide more specific data for our Medical staff’s compliance with hand hygiene.
    If anyone does distinguish between different groups (Medical,Surgical,Oncology etc) and /or seniority of staff w would welcome your input.
    Many thanks
    Jenny Breen
    Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre
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