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Hi everyone,
I’m getting a lot of questions from dentists under Level 3 restrictions with regards to wearing eye sealing goggles instead of your routine safety glasses aka protective eyewear. I think this has stemmed from social media posts of HCWs in Italy having bruised faces after wearing P2s and goggles all day and night.
It appears the terms of goggles/protective eyewear is sometimes used interchangeably. I’d like to ask the group for guidance (please) to reassure dentists that you can’t contract COVID-19 through your eyeballs – and to carry on with your safety glasses.
I know a lot of dentists don’t have goggles and I don’t want to encourage them unnecessarily to try and get them when other healthcare workers may need them more!
FYI – L3 restrictions include performing only urgent and emergency dental care for the community and applying (when necessary) appropriate transmission based precautions for suspected/confirmed COVID-19 cases. This also includes limiting AGPs
Regards,
Kylie Robb
Practice Services ManagerAustralian Dental Association NSW Branch
Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
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Hi Kylie
This link has useful information.
https://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/coronavirus-and-your-eyes/Cheers
TSDr Tony Skapetis
Clinical Director of Education
Oral Health, Western Sydney LHD
Chair, Western Sydney Local Health District HREC
Clinical Associate Professor
University of Sydney faculty of Medicine and Health
Sydney Dental School
[untitled] https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0401-9908Hi everyone,
I’m getting a lot of questions from dentists under Level 3 restrictions with regards to wearing eye sealing goggles instead of your routine safety glasses aka protective eyewear. I think this has stemmed from social media posts of HCWs in Italy having bruised faces after wearing P2s and goggles all day and night.
It appears the terms of goggles/protective eyewear is sometimes used interchangeably. I’d like to ask the group for guidance (please) to reassure dentists that you can’t contract COVID-19 through your eyeballs – and to carry on with your safety glasses.
I know a lot of dentists don’t have goggles and I don’t want to encourage them unnecessarily to try and get them when other healthcare workers may need them more!
FYI – L3 restrictions include performing only urgent and emergency dental care for the community and applying (when necessary) appropriate transmission based precautions for suspected/confirmed COVID-19 cases. This also includes limiting AGPs
Regards,
Kylie Robb
Practice Services ManagerAustralian Dental Association NSW Branch
Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
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Hi Kylie
As a point of fact your CAN be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 through your eyeballs (they are mucous membrane surfaces, after all), but just what role that plays in developing disease if not yet certain. I believe the best way to get COVID-19 is to inoculate the virus directly into your nose.
BUT, and it is quite a big but, SARS-CoV-2 would need to be present inside the tight fitting sealed goggles to get anywhere near the eyeball. Unless you are purposefully inoculating the inside of your sealed goggles with patient secretions before you don them, I can’t see the risk. Provided you are wearing your PPE appropriately, when anticipating secretion exposure.
I will say, however, that I am not a dentist, and thus probably do not understand all of the concerns a dentist might have about secretion exposure, so am happy to stand corrected about my assumption of no inoculation of the inside of the google with patient secretions prior to donning.
In my experience in both occupational safety and infection prevention and control, sealed safety goggles are a much better protective barrier that other forms of eye protection, such as face shields which are not sealed at the sides.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E .
B App Sc Nur, Grad Dip Occ Safety Nur, M Hlth Sc Inf ConSt Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
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Hi everyone,
I’m getting a lot of questions from dentists under Level 3 restrictions with regards to wearing eye sealing goggles instead of your routine safety glasses aka protective eyewear. I think this has stemmed from social media posts of HCWs in Italy having bruised faces after wearing P2s and goggles all day and night.
It appears the terms of goggles/protective eyewear is sometimes used interchangeably. I’d like to ask the group for guidance (please) to reassure dentists that you can’t contract COVID-19 through your eyeballs – and to carry on with your safety glasses.
I know a lot of dentists don’t have goggles and I don’t want to encourage them unnecessarily to try and get them when other healthcare workers may need them more!
FYI – L3 restrictions include performing only urgent and emergency dental care for the community and applying (when necessary) appropriate transmission based precautions for suspected/confirmed COVID-19 cases. This also includes limiting AGPs
Regards,
Kylie Robb
Practice Services ManagerAustralian Dental Association NSW Branch
Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: https://www.adansw.com.au[cid:image001.png@01D60833.315EA990] [cid:image002.png@01D60833.315EA990] [cid:image003.png@01D60833.315EA990]
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Hi Michael,
Most dentists do no have sealed safety googles and most work with loupes and lights making this concept difficult. Our lights usually have cords also going to our waste etc etc making a seal impossible without wearing a space suit.It gets quite complex as many dentists are shutting down altogether because of the restrictions imposed by Level 3 dental restrictions.
The fact that 70,000 hospital admissions occur each year, because of preventable dental causes, must be some concern to hospitals as Dentists at present are restricted and can not do routine checkups to try to prevent or detect unexpected dental issues according to the reading of the level 3 dental restrictions.
Chinese research at present shows an increase in dental emergencies at hospitals and a decrease in dental trauma cases, with the closing of practices.Normal practice in dentistry would be to don and doff in the surgery and not outside the treatment room. Our practices building architecture doesn’t lend itself to eliminating risks (air flow, staff flow). The patient, dentist and DA needs to walk out the surgery door letting air out of the treatment room. etc.
I don’t know anyone with a sealed door situation. Theoretically our habits could result in unpurposeful” inoculation of the inside of googles.
Dentists are undertaking newer precautions to try and minimise risks.Dentists are not set up to see coronavirus patients – please if you see a patient with a dental issue give the patient antibiotics and pain killers and tell them not to seek treatment from a dentist until they are virus free please. Or get them to ring their dentist – not turn up at the clinic.
I think that it is unwise to tell dentists you cant get coronavirus via eyewear issues.
I also think it would be unwise to make sealed googles a required standard for emergency dental care (of patients not suspected to have the virus), on the basis of a theoretical risk, because of the broader issues.Cheers
Glenda Farmer BDSc B Dent Studies
http://www.smartdentist.com.au
Dentist and Infection control policy and procedure solutions> On 1 Apr 2020, at 5:52 pm, Michael Wishart wrote:
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> Hi Kylie
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> As a point of fact your CAN be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 through your eyeballs (they are mucous membrane surfaces, after all), but just what role that plays in developing disease if not yet certain. I believe the best way to get COVID-19 is to inoculate the virus directly into your nose.
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> BUT, and it is quite a big but, SARS-CoV-2 would need to be present inside the tight fitting sealed goggles to get anywhere near the eyeball. Unless you are purposefully inoculating the inside of your sealed goggles with patient secretions before you don them, I cant see the risk. Provided you are wearing your PPE appropriately, when anticipating secretion exposure.
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> I will say, however, that I am not a dentist, and thus probably do not understand all of the concerns a dentist might have about secretion exposure, so am happy to stand corrected about my assumption of no inoculation of the inside of the google with patient secretions prior to donning.
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> In my experience in both occupational safety and infection prevention and control, sealed safety goggles are a much better protective barrier that other forms of eye protection, such as face shields which are not sealed at the sides.
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> Cheers
> Michael
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> Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E .
> B App Sc Nur, Grad Dip Occ Safety Nur, M Hlth Sc Inf Con
>
> St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
> T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
> E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
> W https://www.svphn.org.au
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> From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU > On Behalf Of Kylie Robb
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> Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Goggles vs protective eyewear
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> Hi everyone,
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> Im getting a lot of questions from dentists under Level 3 restrictions with regards to wearing eye sealing goggles instead of your routine safety glasses aka protective eyewear. I think this has stemmed from social media posts of HCWs in Italy having bruised faces after wearing P2s and goggles all day and night.
>
> It appears the terms of goggles/protective eyewear is sometimes used interchangeably. Id like to ask the group for guidance (please) to reassure dentists that you cant contract COVID-19 through your eyeballs and to carry on with your safety glasses.
>
> I know a lot of dentists dont have goggles and I dont want to encourage them unnecessarily to try and get them when other healthcare workers may need them more!
>
> FYI – L3 restrictions include performing only urgent and emergency dental care for the community and applying (when necessary) appropriate transmission based precautions for suspected/confirmed COVID-19 cases. This also includes limiting AGPs
>
> Regards,
>
> Kylie Robb
> Practice Services Manager
>
> Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
> Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
> t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
> E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: https://www.adansw.com.au
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