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Hello all, the biggest challenge I face is trying to get staff to believe in the risk.
My latest trial is to find an innovative and practical way to make staff realise that gloves do not provide adequate protection. We all know they don’t, but how do we prove it?
Has anyone got tips or suggestions on practical demonstrations or even simple and clear evidence I could use to convince staff that gloves are not the be all and end all?
Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community Health
Rosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
Tel (02) 4633 4113 | Fax (02) 4633 4111 | Mob 0438 925 816
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Hi Donna
A couple of simple things spring to mind.
1. Have users wear disposable gloves for a while, simulating normal usage. Plate hands prior to glove wearing, then after. Note how much more growth you get from gloved hands. Washing after glove use is important.
2. Get users to don gloves and flex their fingers, pick up objects, etc. Then dip gloved hands in coloured dye (and flex fingers in the dye) and see how much gets through onto the skin. Gloves develop holes very rapidly in use.
These simple activities are designed to show way it is important not to trust gloves alone, and the effect glove use can have on the active flora on your hands.
You might find a hand care product provider or glove manufacturer will have similar activities they will do with your staff.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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[2019 conference email signature]Hello all, the biggest challenge I face is trying to get staff to believe in the risk.
My latest trial is to find an innovative and practical way to make staff realise that gloves do not provide adequate protection. We all know they don’t, but how do we prove it?
Has anyone got tips or suggestions on practical demonstrations or even simple and clear evidence I could use to convince staff that gloves are not the be all and end all?
Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community Health
Rosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
Tel (02) 4633 4113 | Fax (02) 4633 4111 | Mob 0438 925 816
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Great ideas Michael.
Another similar activity get them to place their gloves on and apply a 20cm dollop of acrylic paint onto the gloves to simulate soap.
Ask them to pretend to wash their hands for 15 seconds then try and remove their gloves without cross contaminating themselves.
They soon learn that its difficult and always one person has a potential hole or tears their gloves when removing.
Its very visual and they see
a) areas they have missed when washing with the paint and
b) how a small hole can allow germs to remain behind even though they have worn gloves.Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| M: 0466 379 821|e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |
Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
[Conumers]Hi Donna
A couple of simple things spring to mind.
1. Have users wear disposable gloves for a while, simulating normal usage. Plate hands prior to glove wearing, then after. Note how much more growth you get from gloved hands. Washing after glove use is important.
2. Get users to don gloves and flex their fingers, pick up objects, etc. Then dip gloved hands in coloured dye (and flex fingers in the dye) and see how much gets through onto the skin. Gloves develop holes very rapidly in use.
These simple activities are designed to show way it is important not to trust gloves alone, and the effect glove use can have on the active flora on your hands.
You might find a hand care product provider or glove manufacturer will have similar activities they will do with your staff.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Hello all, the biggest challenge I face is trying to get staff to believe in the risk.
My latest trial is to find an innovative and practical way to make staff realise that gloves do not provide adequate protection. We all know they don’t, but how do we prove it?
Has anyone got tips or suggestions on practical demonstrations or even simple and clear evidence I could use to convince staff that gloves are not the be all and end all?
Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community Health
Rosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
Tel (02) 4633 4113 | Fax (02) 4633 4111 | Mob 0438 925 816
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Hi Donna,
I recently held a training session for new staff which involved PPE donning and doffing for contact precautions. Staff put on aprons and gloves, their hands and aprons were contaminated with glow in the dark powder. Once they removed the PPE we checked their clothes and hands, most were contaminated.
We were then able to discuss the importance of hand hygiene post glove use as well as improved technique for PPE doffing
Kind regards,
Fiona De Sousa CICP-E| Nurse Manager | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Launceston General Hospital, Level 2, Launceston TAS 7250
phone: 6777 6715 | mobile: 0408 487 197 | fax: 6777 5170 | email: fiona.de.sousa@ths.tas.gov.au |
intranet: http://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/intranet/thon/infection_controlIPCU – ‘By working together we promote a culture of safety to reduce preventable infections and transmission of multi-resistant organisms’
Hello all, the biggest challenge I face is trying to get staff to believe in the risk.
My latest trial is to find an innovative and practical way to make staff realise that gloves do not provide adequate protection. We all know they don’t, but how do we prove it?
Has anyone got tips or suggestions on practical demonstrations or even simple and clear evidence I could use to convince staff that gloves are not the be all and end all?
Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community Health
Rosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
Tel (02) 4633 4113 | Fax (02) 4633 4111 | Mob 0438 925 816
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Dear Donna – just reading those suggestions which are all great.
Having done and still educating on this for over 25 years, I use one quote
from a paper from CDC in 2003! Am sure I can copy the text below“Bacterial flora colonising patients may be recovered from the hands of 30%
of HCWs who wear gloves during patient contact”(I repeat this if it hasn’t
shocked them!). “Further, wearing gloves does not provide complete
protection against acquisition of infection caused by HBV and herpes simplex
virus. In such instances pathogens presumably gain access to a caregiver’s
hands via small defects in gloves or by contamination of the hands during
removal”I focus on the 30% and that staff hands become contaminated either by glove
defects and/or during removal.I think that should get the message over as a conclusion to any
demonstrationRegards,
Margaret Jennings
Marjen Education Serviceswebsite. http://www.marjenes.com.au
email. marjenes@optusnet.com.aumob. 0404 088 754
fax. 03 9439 2436Schmidt (South Western Sydney LHD)
Hello all, the biggest challenge I face is trying to get staff to believe in
the risk.My latest trial is to find an innovative and practical way to make staff
realise that gloves do not provide adequate protection. We all know they
don’t, but how do we prove it?Has anyone got tips or suggestions on practical demonstrations or even
simple and clear evidence I could use to convince staff that gloves are not
the be all and end all?Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community HealthRosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
Tel (02) 4633 4113 | Fax (02) 4633 4111 | Mob 0438 925 816donnamarie.schmidt@health.nsw.gov.au
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