General enquiry

[Tina Owens]

Hello Michael

We have always had an in line filter on our main suction line which connects to our suction canister (not the suction tubing we use on the patient) in the operating theatre, I was just wondering if this was a necessary practice to continue and if so, how regularly do the filters need changing? I have only generally ever used these type of filters in endoscopy.

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

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[Darryl Ellis]

Hi Tina
The vacuum source is not clear from the enquiry but there are two cases.

Suction Pump
An inline antibacterial filter between the jar and the pump is essential for infection control as this potentially contaminated
air is exhausted to the room.
For infectious patients the filter should be replaced after each use.
Otherwise, it rather depends on the actual usage but the filter should be replaced every month or when damp or discoloured.

Wall Suction
Again, for infectious patients an antibacterial filter should be used and replaced after each use.
Otherwise, an inline antibacterial filter is not always used, as the potentially contaminated air is exhausted to the pump room
which would have its own filtering system.

There is generally a sintered bronze filter fitted to wall suction controllers and nozzles to protect the piping system from solids
and heavy fluids in the event of a jar overflow, in which case the bronze filter should be cleaned immediately.
A greenish discoloration is usually an indication that cleaning is required.
Otherwise, under normal conditions they shouldn’t require more than an annual clean or whatever local preventative maintenance
schedule is in place. The most effective method of cleaning the bronze filters is by autoclave.

Regards,

Darryl Ellis | Chief Executive Officer

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Hello Michael

We have always had an in line filter on our main suction line which connects to our suction canister (not the suction tubing we use on the patient) in the operating theatre, I was just wondering if this was a necessary practice to continue and if so, how regularly do the filters need changing? I have only generally ever used these type of filters in endoscopy.

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

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M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
t.owens@thecosmeticinstitute.com.au
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[Michael Wishart]

Hi Tina

Unless there is something in the pendant suction system that needs protecting form overflow (doubtful there is), I would agree an inline filter in that instance is unnecessary – even for an ‘infectious patient’ actually.

The only issue different from the recovery setup may be overflow valves on the suction canister you are using in theatres…. If you need to protect the external suction unit from fluid (why?) you may need an inline filter.

Cheers
Michael

Michael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator

A 627 Rode Road, Chermside QLD 4032
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Hi Darryl

Thanks for your response to my enquiry. The in line filter is attached to suction tubing which connects directly to our theatre pendant, which would be plumbed to our external suction unit, which does have its own filtering system. This tubing then connects directly with a suction canister. All other tubing in our recovery unit is connected the same way (ie from a gas panel to the suction canister). These do not have in line filters, as when you are suctioning a patient, the contents go directly into the canister, which is then changed between patients.

I note you mention that infectious patients would need to have one, which I can understand, but we are a day surgery performing elective surgery and we would not accept patients who had a highly infectious disease.

So from my understanding of your response concerning the wall suction, the in line filter is unnecessary?

Regards

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

[cid:9E350D6D-535C-4698-891D-F55ACC3FBEB3@tci.local]

M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
t.owens@thecosmeticinstitute.com.au
98 Marine Parade, Southport, QLD 4215
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Hi Tina
The vacuum source is not clear from the enquiry but there are two cases.

Suction Pump
An inline antibacterial filter between the jar and the pump is essential for infection control as this potentially contaminated
air is exhausted to the room.
For infectious patients the filter should be replaced after each use.
Otherwise, it rather depends on the actual usage but the filter should be replaced every month or when damp or discoloured.

Wall Suction
Again, for infectious patients an antibacterial filter should be used and replaced after each use.
Otherwise, an inline antibacterial filter is not always used, as the potentially contaminated air is exhausted to the pump room
which would have its own filtering system.

There is generally a sintered bronze filter fitted to wall suction controllers and nozzles to protect the piping system from solids
and heavy fluids in the event of a jar overflow, in which case the bronze filter should be cleaned immediately.
A greenish discoloration is usually an indication that cleaning is required.
Otherwise, under normal conditions they shouldn’t require more than an annual clean or whatever local preventative maintenance
schedule is in place. The most effective method of cleaning the bronze filters is by autoclave.

Regards,

Darryl Ellis | Chief Executive Officer

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T +61 2 9466 5300 | F +61 2 9922 7165 | M +61 417 263 854
W http://www.medaust.com | E darryl.ellis@medaust.com | I info@medaust.com

Hello Michael

We have always had an in line filter on our main suction line which connects to our suction canister (not the suction tubing we use on the patient) in the operating theatre, I was just wondering if this was a necessary practice to continue and if so, how regularly do the filters need changing? I have only generally ever used these type of filters in endoscopy.

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

[cid:9E350D6D-535C-4698-891D-F55ACC3FBEB3@tci.local]

M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
t.owens@thecosmeticinstitute.com.au
98 Marine Parade, Southport, QLD 4215
[cid:28BB8E47-FA99-4957-98F0-001299011A63@tci.local] [cid:0695DACD-A5A1-4802-8717-C1B1DE0F7CFC@tci.local] [cid:AA704435-49C1-4C20-AC86-9DF777D87F69@tci.local] [cid:3131B61C-C776-4A69-85FF-8DD35192640A@tci.local] thecosmeticinstitute.com.au

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[Tina Owens]

Thanks Michael, personally never seen it, not sure who put in place, but I don’t really want to have to spend unnecessary dollars on something we don’t really need.

Thanks for your insight.

Cheers

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

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M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
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98 Marine Parade, Southport, QLD 4215
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Hi Tina

Unless there is something in the pendant suction system that needs protecting form overflow (doubtful there is), I would agree an inline filter in that instance is unnecessary – even for an ‘infectious patient’ actually.

The only issue different from the recovery setup may be overflow valves on the suction canister you are using in theatres…. If you need to protect the external suction unit from fluid (why?) you may need an inline filter.

Cheers
Michael

Michael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator

A 627 Rode Road, Chermside QLD 4032
P (07) 3326 3068 | F (07) 3607 2226 | E michael.wishart@svha.org.au | W http://www.hsnph.org.au
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Hi Darryl

Thanks for your response to my enquiry. The in line filter is attached to suction tubing which connects directly to our theatre pendant, which would be plumbed to our external suction unit, which does have its own filtering system. This tubing then connects directly with a suction canister. All other tubing in our recovery unit is connected the same way (ie from a gas panel to the suction canister). These do not have in line filters, as when you are suctioning a patient, the contents go directly into the canister, which is then changed between patients.

I note you mention that infectious patients would need to have one, which I can understand, but we are a day surgery performing elective surgery and we would not accept patients who had a highly infectious disease.

So from my understanding of your response concerning the wall suction, the in line filter is unnecessary?

Regards

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

[cid:9E350D6D-535C-4698-891D-F55ACC3FBEB3@tci.local]

M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
t.owens@thecosmeticinstitute.com.au
98 Marine Parade, Southport, QLD 4215
[cid:28BB8E47-FA99-4957-98F0-001299011A63@tci.local] [cid:0695DACD-A5A1-4802-8717-C1B1DE0F7CFC@tci.local] [cid:AA704435-49C1-4C20-AC86-9DF777D87F69@tci.local] [cid:3131B61C-C776-4A69-85FF-8DD35192640A@tci.local] thecosmeticinstitute.com.au

Hi Tina
The vacuum source is not clear from the enquiry but there are two cases.

Suction Pump
An inline antibacterial filter between the jar and the pump is essential for infection control as this potentially contaminated
air is exhausted to the room.
For infectious patients the filter should be replaced after each use.
Otherwise, it rather depends on the actual usage but the filter should be replaced every month or when damp or discoloured.

Wall Suction
Again, for infectious patients an antibacterial filter should be used and replaced after each use.
Otherwise, an inline antibacterial filter is not always used, as the potentially contaminated air is exhausted to the pump room
which would have its own filtering system.

There is generally a sintered bronze filter fitted to wall suction controllers and nozzles to protect the piping system from solids
and heavy fluids in the event of a jar overflow, in which case the bronze filter should be cleaned immediately.
A greenish discoloration is usually an indication that cleaning is required.
Otherwise, under normal conditions they shouldn’t require more than an annual clean or whatever local preventative maintenance
schedule is in place. The most effective method of cleaning the bronze filters is by autoclave.

Regards,

Darryl Ellis | Chief Executive Officer

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Hello Michael

We have always had an in line filter on our main suction line which connects to our suction canister (not the suction tubing we use on the patient) in the operating theatre, I was just wondering if this was a necessary practice to continue and if so, how regularly do the filters need changing? I have only generally ever used these type of filters in endoscopy.

Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks

Tina Owens
Director of Nursing

[cid:9E350D6D-535C-4698-891D-F55ACC3FBEB3@tci.local]

M 0419 026 091 T 07 5613 2000
t.owens@thecosmeticinstitute.com.au
98 Marine Parade, Southport, QLD 4215
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