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    Franciska Ferreira
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    Franciska Ferreira

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    Hi Everyone,

    I’m a new subscriber and just would like to test my email.

    I have a question for you all, I’m keen to know what issues, if any, you might have with providing baths for labour and delivery from an infection control or risk management perspective?

    Kind Regards

    Franciska Ferreira
    INFECTION PREVENTION & CONTROL /WOUND MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT Burnside War Memorial Hospital
    120 Kensington Road, Toorak Gardens, SA 5056
    t: 08 8202 7222 f: 08 8407 8573 e: fferreira@burnsidehospital.asn.au

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    #69821
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart

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    Hi Franciska

    The only issues I have had with water baths and maternity are in regard to cleaning the baths after use, and the use of spas or baths with plumbing under the bath that returns water to the bath. Each time the bath is used it needs to be fully cleaned before the next patient uses it. With a spa, if the plumbing retains fluid (and other stuff…) after you empty the bath, when it is turned on again this fluid (and other stuff) can be pumped back into the bath. Thus any bath with plumbing which retains fluid and can be pumped back into the bath needs to be flushed with an appropriate cleaner (eg spa cleaning product) after every use (even if the spa jets are not used). I had previously recommended that baths with spa capability in maternity units were replaced by plain baths because of the difficulties in ensuring compliance with this.

    Aside from the above, items used in the bath by patients (eg supports) need also to be cleaned between uses. You need to ensure there is a clear process and responsibility for cleaning both the bath and any other items used in the bath between each patient. This includes any reusable gloves or other reusable protective equipment staff may wear that may be splashed with fluid.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
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    Hi Everyone,

    I’m a new subscriber and just would like to test my email.

    I have a question for you all, I’m keen to know what issues, if any, you might have with providing baths for labour and delivery from an infection control or risk management perspective?

    Kind Regards

    Franciska Ferreira
    INFECTION PREVENTION & CONTROL /WOUND MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT Burnside War Memorial Hospital
    120 Kensington Road, Toorak Gardens, SA 5056
    t: 08 8202 7222 f: 08 8407 8573 e: fferreira@burnsidehospital.asn.au

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    #69833
    Maree Sommerville
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    Franciska,

    We have a procedure on baths but our women do not deliver in the bath.
    It is not our hospital policy to allow water-births. The baths are only
    for pain relief in the first stage of labour.

    Some of the factors that would determine the exit from the bath are
    meconium stained liquor, blood staining in the water, imminent onset of
    2nd stage.

    If delivery is imminent and exit from the bath cannot be achieved
    safely, the water is drained before the foetal head is on view. Our
    procedure does discuss delivery in the bath but in terms of delivering
    safely when the midwife has not anticipated the beginning of second
    stage or if second stage is precipitated.

    The cleaning of the bath is in accordance with our routine cleaning of
    patient care areas (bathrooms) and is no different to cleaning the
    shower of a woman in labour, who is trying to achieve pain relief in
    this context.

    I would have a number of issues related to delivering in a bath

    * Occupational exposure risk to staff

    o While most of our women have been tested in pregnancy for blood
    borne viruses, it cannot be guaranteed at the time of birthing.

    * Cleaning of bath in what is essentially a very large blood and
    body fluid spill.

    * Cleaning of hoses for water and drainage (particularly where
    inflatable baths are used).

    o In these baths, a warm temperature needs to be maintained, thus
    water needs to be extracted and topped up.

    I was watching the TV show on midwives when a baby delivered in water.
    Bath was inflatable

    o Midwife wore short gloves and no protective eyewear.

    o Cord was cut in bath and blood went everywhere

    o The women did loose blood in the bath

    o She may have opened her bowels also

    o The bath had a liner but holes are possible

    o Nitrous oxide tubing was in the water.

    There may be other issues related to water, slip issues, staff clothing
    getting wet. Other members of this forum may wish to comment.

    Maree Sommerville

    Infection Control Coordinator

    Mercy Hospital for Women

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Franciska Ferreira

    Hi Everyone,

    I’m a new subscriber and just would like to test my email.

    I have a question for you all, I’m keen to know what issues, if any, you
    might have with providing baths for labour and delivery from an
    infection control or risk management perspective?

    Kind Regards

    Franciska Ferreira

    INFECTION PREVENTION & CONTROL /WOUND MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT Burnside War
    Memorial Hospital

    120 Kensington Road, Toorak Gardens, SA 5056

    t: 08 8202 7222 f: 08 8407 8573 e: fferreira@burnsidehospital.asn.au

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