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    Lyndall Finn
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    Hello all

    Despite a clear hospital policy in regard to the ‘Handling and Disposal of Explanted Items and Human Tissue’ some of the orthopaedic surgeons continue to request that metal plates, screws and prosthesis be reprocessed in CSSD.

    One of the surgeons has recently written to the hospital stating that the reason for these ongoing reprocessing requests is that:
    ‘It is relevant to examine explanted prostheses to gain further understanding of wear patterns, bone ingrowth or the lack of ingrowth, and metal or polyethylene failure. These items do not pose a threat. They are routinely examined in similar manner in Public Institutions, after sterilization.’
    I strongly support the hospital’s policy that the explanted items should not be reprocessed but the surgeon is adamant that this practice routinely occurs in many public hospitals.

    I would really appreciate feedback from other hospitals in regard to this issue.

    Lyndall Finn RN/RM Grad Dip Infectious Disease / Population Health
    Infection Control Consultant
    The Burnside War Memorial Hospital Inc.
    120 Kensington Road
    Toorak Gardens
    South Australia 5065

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    #68814
    Anonymous
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    Hi Lyndall
    I have been invovlved in a group developing a WA Health state policy in relation to this issue. Currently it is still draft and out for consultation.
    Hopefully it should be available on website by end of month. It states:
    While the Department of Health does not support the release of human tissue or explanted medical devices, because of the potential public health risks associated with the uncontrolled storage and disposal, consideration will be given to requests for the return of human tissue or explanted medical devices for reasons of cultural, religious, or personal conviction.

    There is a section specifically on explanted devices.

    If you would like further information you can email me directly
    Kind Regards
    Rebecca

    Rebecca McCann Program Manager

    Healthcare Associated Infection Unit (HAIU)
    Communicable Disease Control Directorate Department of Health
    Grace Vaughan House
    227 Stubbs Terrace
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    Hello all

    Despite a clear hospital policy in regard to the Handling and Disposal of Explanted Items and Human Tissue some of the orthopaedic surgeons continue to request that metal plates, screws and prosthesis be reprocessed in CSSD.

    One of the surgeons has recently written to the hospital stating that the reason for these ongoing reprocessing requests is that:

    It is relevant to examine explanted prostheses to gain further understanding of wear patterns, bone ingrowth or the lack of ingrowth, and metal or polyethylene failure. These items do not pose a threat. They are routinely examined in similar manner in Public Institutions, after sterilization.

    I strongly support the hospitals policy that the explanted items should not be reprocessed but the surgeon is adamant that this practice routinely occurs in many public hospitals.

    I would really appreciate feedback from other hospitals in regard to this issue.

    Lyndall Finn RN/RM Grad Dip Infectious Disease / Population Health
    Infection Control Consultant
    The Burnside War Memorial Hospital Inc.
    120 Kensington Road

    Toorak Gardens

    South Australia 5065

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    #68812
    Anonymous
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    Our (a public hospital) policy is also that these Items not be
    processsed after removal. Perhaps you could use the line that your
    health service is not registered to reprocess single use items?
    I believe that it is up to the companies to do a research project on the
    impact of wear and tear on the implants which would need ethical
    approval and strict guidelines on the use and dispoasal of the implants
    once removed from the body.
    Lyn

    Lyn Golden

    Infection Prevention & Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health

    Helping Everyone To Be And Stay Healthy

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    ________________________________

    Behalf Of Lyndall Finn

    Hello all

    Despite a clear hospital policy in regard to the ‘Handling and Disposal
    of Explanted Items and Human Tissue’ some of the orthopaedic surgeons
    continue to request that metal plates, screws and prosthesis be
    reprocessed in CSSD.

    One of the surgeons has recently written to the hospital stating that
    the reason for these ongoing reprocessing requests is that:

    ‘It is relevant to examine explanted prostheses to gain further
    understanding of wear patterns, bone ingrowth or the lack of ingrowth,
    and metal or polyethylene failure. These items do not pose a threat.
    They are routinely examined in similar manner in Public Institutions,
    after sterilization.’

    I strongly support the hospital’s policy that the explanted items should
    not be reprocessed but the surgeon is adamant that this practice
    routinely occurs in many public hospitals.

    I would really appreciate feedback from other hospitals in regard to
    this issue.

    Lyndall Finn RN/RM Grad Dip Infectious Disease / Population Health
    Infection Control Consultant
    The Burnside War Memorial Hospital Inc.
    120 Kensington Road

    Toorak Gardens

    South Australia 5065

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    #68818
    Fiona de Sousa
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    Hi Lyndall,

    Our facility does not routinely allow for the return of these items to patients. However there is provision for their return in specific circumstances (e.g. cultural, religious, legal reasons) this request needs to be made in advance so that it can be fully considered and appropriately prepared for.

    I am only aware of this happening on a couple of occasions in 5 years and the request has never been from a surgeon.

    Kind Regards,

    Fiona De Sousa

    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator

    Sydney Adventist Hospital

    Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au

    185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076

    ________________________________

    Hi Lyndall

    I have been invovlved in a group developing a WA Health state policy in relation to this issue. Currently it is still draft and out for consultation.

    Hopefully it should be available on website by end of month. It states:

    While the Department of Health does not support the release of human tissue or explanted medical devices, because of the potential public health risks associated with the uncontrolled storage and disposal, consideration will be given to requests for the return of human tissue or explanted medical devices for reasons of cultural, religious, or personal conviction.

    There is a section specifically on explanted devices.

    If you would like further information you can email me directly

    Kind Regards

    Rebecca

    Rebecca McCann Program Manager

    Healthcare Associated Infection Unit (HAIU)
    Communicable Disease Control Directorate Department of Health
    Grace Vaughan House
    227 Stubbs Terrace
    SHENTON PARK WA 6008
    T:08 9388 4859 M:0439 920 819 F:08 9388 4888
    E:rebecca.mccann@health.wa.gov.au

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    ________________________________

    Hello all

    Despite a clear hospital policy in regard to the Handling and Disposal of Explanted Items and Human Tissue some of the orthopaedic surgeons continue to request that metal plates, screws and prosthesis be reprocessed in CSSD.

    One of the surgeons has recently written to the hospital stating that the reason for these ongoing reprocessing requests is that:

    It is relevant to examine explanted prostheses to gain further understanding of wear patterns, bone ingrowth or the lack of ingrowth, and metal or polyethylene failure. These items do not pose a threat. They are routinely examined in similar manner in Public Institutions, after sterilization.

    I strongly support the hospitals policy that the explanted items should not be reprocessed but the surgeon is adamant that this practice routinely occurs in many public hospitals.

    I would really appreciate feedback from other hospitals in regard to this issue.

    Lyndall Finn RN/RM Grad Dip Infectious Disease / Population Health
    Infection Control Consultant
    The Burnside War Memorial Hospital Inc.
    120 Kensington Road

    Toorak Gardens

    South Australia 5065

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    #68816
    Thomson, Rachel EA
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    Thomson, Rachel EA

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    Hi Lyndall,

    I fully agree with Lyn’s comments below. The company have the
    obligation to undertake specific research. At the Royal Hobart Hospital
    we comply with the requirement specified in AS/NZ 4187 1.5 WARNING: DO
    NOT REPROCESS EX-PLANTED MEDICAL/DENTAL DEVICES. I fail to see how your
    organisation could support an alternate directive from a surgeon in this
    matter.

    Good luck!

    Kind regards

    Rachel

    Rachel Thomson

    Nurse Unit Manager

    Infection Prevention & Control Unit

    Royal Hobart Hospital

    E: rachel.thomson@dhhs.tas.gov.au

    ________________________________

    Behalf Of Lyn A. Golden

    Our (a public hospital) policy is also that these Items not be
    processsed after removal. Perhaps you could use the line that your
    health service is not registered to reprocess single use items?

    I believe that it is up to the companies to do a research project on the
    impact of wear and tear on the implants which would need ethical
    approval and strict guidelines on the use and dispoasal of the implants
    once removed from the body.

    Lyn

    Lyn Golden

    Infection Prevention & Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health

    Helping Everyone To Be And Stay Healthy

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    ________________________________

    Behalf Of Lyndall Finn

    Hello all

    Despite a clear hospital policy in regard to the ‘Handling and Disposal
    of Explanted Items and Human Tissue’ some of the orthopaedic surgeons
    continue to request that metal plates, screws and prosthesis be
    reprocessed in CSSD.

    One of the surgeons has recently written to the hospital stating that
    the reason for these ongoing reprocessing requests is that:

    ‘It is relevant to examine explanted prostheses to gain further
    understanding of wear patterns, bone ingrowth or the lack of ingrowth,
    and metal or polyethylene failure. These items do not pose a threat.
    They are routinely examined in similar manner in Public Institutions,
    after sterilization.’

    I strongly support the hospital’s policy that the explanted items should
    not be reprocessed but the surgeon is adamant that this practice
    routinely occurs in many public hospitals.

    I would really appreciate feedback from other hospitals in regard to
    this issue.

    Lyndall Finn RN/RM Grad Dip Infectious Disease / Population Health
    Infection Control Consultant
    The Burnside War Memorial Hospital Inc.
    120 Kensington Road

    Toorak Gardens

    South Australia 5065

    ________________________________

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