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    Jayne OConnor
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    Dear Brains Trust,

    Fans!!!!!, could I please ask what the general consensus is on the use of Fans in clinical environment, in particularly in the ICU setting.

    We didn’t install them in our new build for all the IPC reasons of spreading bugs, dust collectors etc. however I have been asked today if we could install them because the benefits to the patient is ‘huge’?! My immediate response is NO but would like to know what others are doing.

    Many thanks

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Jane

    We changed our policy a couple of years ago to state that only bladeless fans could be used in clinical areas. We had so many problems with dust on blades, so we got rid of the blades!

    Staff report the bladeless fans are just as good for cooling patients, and even ICU are happy with them. More expensive to purchase initially, but better than no fans at all, so the clinicians say.

    I’m not going to get into the argument about dispersal of bugs via fan air currents in multi-bedded rooms and ICU…. sometimes I think you just need to put the individual patient first for a change. They may be fighting words, I know, but sometimes some air cooling is really what a patient needs in the short term.

    My opinion, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Dear Brains Trust,

    Fans!!!!!, could I please ask what the general consensus is on the use of Fans in clinical environment, in particularly in the ICU setting.

    We didn’t install them in our new build for all the IPC reasons of spreading bugs, dust collectors etc. however I have been asked today if we could install them because the benefits to the patient is ‘huge’?! My immediate response is NO but would like to know what others are doing.

    Many thanks

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

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    #74880
    Michael Wishart
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    Oh, and we didn’t ‘install’ them. Only portable fans are allowed. Try and regulate use to clinically appropriate only, not just run them all the time.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart, CICP-E
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    Hi Jane

    We changed our policy a couple of years ago to state that only bladeless fans could be used in clinical areas. We had so many problems with dust on blades, so we got rid of the blades!

    Staff report the bladeless fans are just as good for cooling patients, and even ICU are happy with them. More expensive to purchase initially, but better than no fans at all, so the clinicians say.

    I’m not going to get into the argument about dispersal of bugs via fan air currents in multi-bedded rooms and ICU…. sometimes I think you just need to put the individual patient first for a change. They may be fighting words, I know, but sometimes some air cooling is really what a patient needs in the short term.

    My opinion, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart, CICP-E
    Infection Control Coordinator

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    Dear Brains Trust,

    Fans!!!!!, could I please ask what the general consensus is on the use of Fans in clinical environment, in particularly in the ICU setting.

    We didn’t install them in our new build for all the IPC reasons of spreading bugs, dust collectors etc. however I have been asked today if we could install them because the benefits to the patient is ‘huge’?! My immediate response is NO but would like to know what others are doing.

    Many thanks

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

    p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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    #74881
    Samantha Palmby
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    Hi Jayne, this is very timely. I was going to send a similar question out.

    We have had a similar question in our Emergency Departments, who have recently treated several patient with hyperthermia post a marathon. They have again asked for permission to use fans, with water spray bottles. Apparently this evaporative cooling is ‘best practice’ in the ED circles, particularly when patients are unable to tolerate cooling mats due to irritability etc.

    I am also wondering if there is another moderate cost alternative to the expensive cooling mats (which we have in our ICU) that people have recommended for use in their resus bays in Emergency Departments. Considering the resus bay is in a high traffic area, with the ambulance bay just nearby, I am keen to find out what everyone else recommends in this environment.

    Thanks
    Sam

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    Dear Brains Trust,

    Fans!!!!!, could I please ask what the general consensus is on the use of Fans in clinical environment, in particularly in the ICU setting.

    We didn’t install them in our new build for all the IPC reasons of spreading bugs, dust collectors etc. however I have been asked today if we could install them because the benefits to the patient is ‘huge’?! My immediate response is NO but would like to know what others are doing.

    Many thanks

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

    p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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