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    McKay, Katherine
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    McKay, Katherine

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    Greetings!

    I am seeking information on the use of oscillating, portable fans for patient cooling in ICU settings. Our units are very enthusiastic to purchase said items, however we are not keen due to the risk of turbulent airflow, aerosolization of pathogens etc. The ICU teams are requesting documentation/studies/evidence to support our stance – a brief look has failed to find anything but we are wondering, before I dig deeper, if anyone had had to respond to this issue and was able to share this information.

    Katherine McKay
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Hand Hygiene Portfolio
    Infection Prevention and Control Services
    Box Hill Hospital
    Eastern Health

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    #74071
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart

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    Hi Kay

    We had this debate in ICU, but mainly focussing on the dust on the blades of the fans. Nobody seemed to want to clean them… so we opted for non-bladed fans. They still move air (and thus if there is concern about airflow disruption, this will still pertain), but are much easier to keep clean, and no blades to have to wipe.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Greetings!

    I am seeking information on the use of oscillating, portable fans for patient cooling in ICU settings. Our units are very enthusiastic to purchase said items, however we are not keen due to the risk of turbulent airflow, aerosolization of pathogens etc. The ICU teams are requesting documentation/studies/evidence to support our stance – a brief look has failed to find anything but we are wondering, before I dig deeper, if anyone had had to respond to this issue and was able to share this information.

    Katherine McKay
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Hand Hygiene Portfolio
    Infection Prevention and Control Services
    Box Hill Hospital
    Eastern Health

    P: (03) 9895 3480
    E: katherine.mckay@easternhealth.org.au

    http://www.easternhealth.org.au
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    #74074
    Cath Murphy
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    Cath Murphy

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    Hi Katherine

    There has been some amazing new research done on air turbulence in operating theatres where a HEPA/ Ultraviolet air recirculation system (HUAIRS) is in use. I saw it presented at an Australian Orthopaedic Association Conference in Adelaide 3 weeks ago.

    The results may not yet be published but they are disturbing given that there were very large increases in turbulence even when just one person entered the OR. Air turbulence is an invisible issue and as such one we may not have ever given it enough consideration. Some of the issues raised in the research may be able to be generalised to support your argument.

    I am happy to put you in contact with the researcher if you think that it would help. In the interim here are a couple of general papers on air and spread.

    Yours sincerely

    Cath

    Cathryn Murphy RN B. Photog MPH PhD CIC
    Chief Executive Officer & Creative Director
    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd
    QLD, Australia

    E: Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au
    M: +61 428 154154
    W:http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au

    Greetings!

    I am seeking information on the use of oscillating, portable fans for patient cooling in ICU settings. Our units are very enthusiastic to purchase said items, however we are not keen due to the risk of turbulent airflow, aerosolization of pathogens etc. The ICU teams are requesting documentation/studies/evidence to support our stance – a brief look has failed to find anything but we are wondering, before I dig deeper, if anyone had had to respond to this issue and was able to share this information.

    Katherine McKay
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Hand Hygiene Portfolio
    Infection Prevention and Control Services
    Box Hill Hospital
    Eastern Health

    P: (03) 9895 3480
    E: katherine.mckay@easternhealth.org.au

    http://www.easternhealth.org.au
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    #74077
    Glenys Harrington
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    Glenys Harrington

    Email:
    infexion@ozemail.com.au

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    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

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    Hi Katherine,

    Information below and attached may be of interest/use in relation to your
    query

    1. Body R. FANS SPREAD INFECTION IN CLINICAL AREAS? Emergency Medicine
    Journal 2008; 25 623-623 Published Online First: 08 Oct 2008.

    http://emj.bmj.com/content/25/10/689.1

    2. Construction and Renovation.
    Judene Bartley,
    Russell Olmsted APIC, 30 Jun. 2007 page 324- 326.

    Includes Recommendations and suggested elements for a site specific fan
    policy

    See if your library can access/borrow or get copies of the pages/chapter of
    the text book for you.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    P.O. Box 6385

    Melbourne

    Australia, 3004

    M: +61 404816434

    E: infexion@ozemail.com.au

    Of Cathryn Murphy

    Hi Katherine

    There has been some amazing new research done on air turbulence in operating
    theatres where a HEPA/ Ultraviolet air recirculation system (HUAIRS) is in
    use. I saw it presented at an Australian Orthopaedic Association Conference
    in Adelaide 3 weeks ago.

    The results may not yet be published but they are disturbing given that
    there were very large increases in turbulence even when just one person
    entered the OR. Air turbulence is an invisible issue and as such one we may
    not have ever given it enough consideration. Some of the issues raised in
    the research may be able to be generalised to support your argument.

    I am happy to put you in contact with the researcher if you think that it
    would help. In the interim here are a couple of general papers on air and
    spread.

    Yours sincerely

    Cath

    Cathryn Murphy RN B. Photog MPH PhD CIC

    Chief Executive Officer & Creative Director

    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd

    QLD, Australia

    E:
    Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au

    M: +61 428 154154

    W:
    http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au

    Of McKay, Katherine

    Greetings!

    I am seeking information on the use of oscillating, portable fans for
    patient cooling in ICU settings. Our units are very enthusiastic to
    purchase said items, however we are not keen due to the risk of turbulent
    airflow, aerosolization of pathogens etc. The ICU teams are requesting
    documentation/studies/evidence to support our stance – a brief look has
    failed to find anything but we are wondering, before I dig deeper, if
    anyone had had to respond to this issue and was able to share this
    information.

    Katherine McKay

    Clinical Nurse Consultant

    Hand Hygiene Portfolio

    Infection Prevention and Control Services

    Box Hill Hospital

    Eastern Health

    P: (03) 9895 3480

    E:
    katherine.mckay@easternhealth.org.au

    http://www.easternhealth.org.au

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