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Hello Brain trusts
I was seeking informatio on dealing with expired N95 masks and face
shields. Interested to hear if you had extension grantedby supplier and
process?kind regards
Jay kaur
CNC
BC
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Hi JayA very topical subject to raise and something that has been brought to my attention numerous times over the last 8 years whilst volunteering in Cambodia. In resource poor countries I advised early on in the pandemic, that they were better to use expired N95 masks than not at all, but just to make sure that the head strap had no sign of perishing and still gives a really good fit (got them to double stretch the bands vigorously). As for face shields, I truly cannot see how they can expire, other than the actual straps if they are rubber and could perish over time.
I see a lot of waste in healthcare due to the expiry date of consumables such as TED stockings that simply can’t expire. We used to be able to ship these to 3rd world countries but can no longer do this.
I’d love to see the “expiry” date challenged on products where the integrity and usefulness of the product determines that is should not have an expiry date. Sure I am opening up a can of worms! Maybe it is something we should discuss at ACPIC and I’m sure Martin could wade in on this. All the best.kind regards
Kareen DunlopRN.ND. Dip Herbal Med. Grad Dip AcupunctureGrad Cert Nursing Education. Cert Infection Control51 Lemon Gum Drive, Baldivis, Western Australia 6171
Email:kareen.stuart@yahoo.com.auWebsite:kareen.bizPh 041 99 456 91On Friday, 13 May 2022, 12:32:02 pm AWST, Jay Kaur wrote:
Hello Brain trusts
I was seeking informatio on dealing with expired N95 masks and face shields. Interested to hear if you had extension grantedby supplier and process?kind regards
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I agree that it would be good to have a better understanding of the way expiration dates are estimated.
There are probably tables somewhere that provide information about the deterioration rate of latex and plastics based on exposure to UV, heat and chemicals. It would probably be worthwhile asking manufacturers what data they use to support their claims, especially for non-controversial items which don’t require aseptic packaging.Kind regards
Lincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention and Control Officer
ACT Ambulance Service
P. | M.0435 329 378 | E. Lincoln.Fowler@act.gov.au
9 Amberley Avenue Fairbairn (Majura) ACT 2609| PO Box 158 Canberra City ACT 2601
[Celebrating World Hand Hygiene Day, 2022 – Surewash]Great topic Kareen and something that the ACIPC might be able to get behind.
I’ve often wondered about the science that sits behind the expiry date on consumables used in various health care settings – from ED curtains and pillows through to masks etc.Does such research exist to support dating of consumables?
Cheers
SueSue Walker
The Nurses for Nurses Network | Director
P: (07) 4151 3884 M: 0428 756 673 E: suew@nursesfornurses.com.auImportant Note: I work Monday to Thursday, excluding public and regional holidays. I will respond to your email on the next regular business day.
[Text Description automatically generated]Hi Jay
A very topical subject to raise and something that has been brought to my attention numerous times over the last 8 years whilst volunteering in Cambodia. In resource poor countries I advised early on in the pandemic, that they were better to use expired N95 masks than not at all, but just to make sure that the head strap had no sign of perishing and still gives a really good fit (got them to double stretch the bands vigorously). As for face shields, I truly cannot see how they can expire, other than the actual straps if they are rubber and could perish over time.I see a lot of waste in healthcare due to the expiry date of consumables such as TED stockings that simply can’t expire. We used to be able to ship these to 3rd world countries but can no longer do this.
I’d love to see the “expiry” date challenged on products where the integrity and usefulness of the product determines that is should not have an expiry date. Sure I am opening up a can of worms! Maybe it is something we should discuss at ACPIC and I’m sure Martin could wade in on this. All the best.
kind regardsKareen Dunlop
RN.ND. Dip Herbal Med. Grad Dip Acupuncture
Grad Cert Nursing Education. Cert Infection Control51 Lemon Gum Drive, Baldivis, Western Australia 6171
Ph 041 99 456 91
On Friday, 13 May 2022, 12:32:02 pm AWST, Jay Kaur <kaurjay321@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Brain trusts
I was seeking informatio on dealing with expired N95 masks and face shields. Interested to hear if you had extension grantedby supplier and process?
kind regards
Jay kaur
CNC
BC
Vic
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I know that we had a batch of our N95masks that were due to expire in July 2020. We had them independently tested by the university to check for integrity etc (as we were going to run out of this particular brand of masks before the alternative arrived).
They passed the test and based on this we sought an extension (which was granted by the company) on the masks I believe upto another 6 months beyond the initial expiry date.I agree there are things that could be used beyond the expiration date, and sometimes it requires some discussions with the manufacturers.
Kind Regards
Know the infection risks, share the solutions
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Specialty Medicine 2 RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| M: 0466 379 821|e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |
Adjunct Senior Industry Fellow | University of South Australia | Horizon Hospital and Health Service
[World Hand Hygiene Day]OFFICIAL
I agree that it would be good to have a better understanding of the way expiration dates are estimated.
There are probably tables somewhere that provide information about the deterioration rate of latex and plastics based on exposure to UV, heat and chemicals. It would probably be worthwhile asking manufacturers what data they use to support their claims, especially for non-controversial items which don’t require aseptic packaging.Kind regards
Lincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention and Control Officer
ACT Ambulance Service
P. | M.0435 329 378 | E. Lincoln.Fowler@act.gov.au
9 Amberley Avenue Fairbairn (Majura) ACT 2609| PO Box 158 Canberra City ACT 2601
[Celebrating World Hand Hygiene Day, 2022 – Surewash]Great topic Kareen and something that the ACIPC might be able to get behind.
I’ve often wondered about the science that sits behind the expiry date on consumables used in various health care settings – from ED curtains and pillows through to masks etc.Does such research exist to support dating of consumables?
Cheers
SueSue Walker
The Nurses for Nurses Network | Director
P: (07) 4151 3884 M: 0428 756 673 E: suew@nursesfornurses.com.auImportant Note: I work Monday to Thursday, excluding public and regional holidays. I will respond to your email on the next regular business day.
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Hi Jay
A very topical subject to raise and something that has been brought to my attention numerous times over the last 8 years whilst volunteering in Cambodia. In resource poor countries I advised early on in the pandemic, that they were better to use expired N95 masks than not at all, but just to make sure that the head strap had no sign of perishing and still gives a really good fit (got them to double stretch the bands vigorously). As for face shields, I truly cannot see how they can expire, other than the actual straps if they are rubber and could perish over time.I see a lot of waste in healthcare due to the expiry date of consumables such as TED stockings that simply can’t expire. We used to be able to ship these to 3rd world countries but can no longer do this.
I’d love to see the “expiry” date challenged on products where the integrity and usefulness of the product determines that is should not have an expiry date. Sure I am opening up a can of worms! Maybe it is something we should discuss at ACPIC and I’m sure Martin could wade in on this. All the best.
kind regardsKareen Dunlop
RN.ND. Dip Herbal Med. Grad Dip Acupuncture
Grad Cert Nursing Education. Cert Infection Control51 Lemon Gum Drive, Baldivis, Western Australia 6171
Ph 041 99 456 91
On Friday, 13 May 2022, 12:32:02 pm AWST, Jay Kaur <kaurjay321@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Brain trusts
I was seeking informatio on dealing with expired N95 masks and face shields. Interested to hear if you had extension grantedby supplier and process?
kind regards
Jay kaur
CNC
BC
Vic
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