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    Janine Egart
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    Hi,

    Just a Friday afternoon question:

    Can anyone provide me with evidence in regards to how long we should leave a room prior to cleaning an airborne precaution room

    o In our local procedure we have 2 hours

    However, I thought that had been decreased to 30minutes

    o I’m aware of the airchanges etc in our negative pressure rooms but this query has come from our Emergency Department.
    Any help greatly appreciated

    Regards

    Janine Egart
    Clinical Nurse Consultant – DDHHS
    Clinical Governance Unit
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    #74290
    Donna Cameron
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    Hi Janine,

    The time to remove airborne contaminants from a room is dependent on the number of air changes per hour (ACHR). There is a handy table in the Victorian Guidelines for the classification and design of isolation rooms in health care facilities (2007) on page 21 “Air changes per hour (ACHR) and time in minutes required for various airborne contaminant removal efficiencies” (snapshot of the table below) which will help answer how long you should leave a room before entering the room without appropriate PPE (i.e. P2 respirator). The link to this document is here: https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/about/publications/policiesandguidelines/Guidelines-for-the-classification-and-design-of-isolation-rooms-in-health-care-facilities-Victorian-Advisory-Committee-on-Infection-Control-2007

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    Note that the room does not need to be “cleared” before cleaning can commence. The cleaners can be wearing appropriate PPE while cleaning the room during this time. This will reduce the turn-around time for the room if cleaning takes place during the “airborne contaminant removal” period.

    My understanding, at least in Victoria, of the timeframes you quote were in relation to the exposure follow up time period after someone had been in a room/area with measles. We used to follow up measles exposures for a period of 2 hours after the person had left an area, but this was reduced to 30 minutes some years ago.

    Regards,
    Donna

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    Microbiological Diagnostic Unit Public Health Laboratory
    The Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity
    792 Elizabeth Street | Melbourne | Victoria | Australia | 3000
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    Hi,

    Just a Friday afternoon question:

    Can anyone provide me with evidence in regards to how long we should leave a room prior to cleaning an airborne precaution room

    o In our local procedure we have 2 hours

    However, I thought that had been decreased to 30minutes

    o I’m aware of the airchanges etc in our negative pressure rooms but this query has come from our Emergency Department.
    Any help greatly appreciated

    Regards

    Janine Egart
    Clinical Nurse Consultant – DDHHS
    Clinical Governance Unit
    p: 07 46166206 | m: 0400704118 (SD: 1947)
    a: Pechy Street, Toowoomba, Qld 4350
    e: Janine.egart@health.qld.gov.au | w: Darling Downs Hospital and Health Service

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    #74293
    Donna Cameron
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    Sorry Janine,

    I also forgot to add that if you don’t know the air changes per hour you should speak to your Engineering Dept. They should be able to give you this information.

    Regards,
    Donna

    Hi Janine,

    The time to remove airborne contaminants from a room is dependent on the number of air changes per hour (ACHR). There is a handy table in the Victorian Guidelines for the classification and design of isolation rooms in health care facilities (2007) on page 21 “Air changes per hour (ACHR) and time in minutes required for various airborne contaminant removal efficiencies” (snapshot of the table below) which will help answer how long you should leave a room before entering the room without appropriate PPE (i.e. P2 respirator). The link to this document is here: https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/about/publications/policiesandguidelines/Guidelines-for-the-classification-and-design-of-isolation-rooms-in-health-care-facilities-Victorian-Advisory-Committee-on-Infection-Control-2007

    Note that the room does not need to be “cleared” before cleaning can commence. The cleaners can be wearing appropriate PPE while cleaning the room during this time. This will reduce the turn-around time for the room if cleaning takes place during the “airborne contaminant removal” period.

    My understanding, at least in Victoria, of the timeframes you quote were in relation to the exposure follow up time period after someone had been in a room/area with measles. We used to follow up measles exposures for a period of 2 hours after the person had left an area, but this was reduced to 30 minutes some years ago.

    Regards,
    Donna

    Donna Cameron
    Infection Control Consultant
    T +61 (0) 3 8344 3574 (Monday, Wednesday & Friday); +61 (0) 3 9096 5233 (Tuesday & Thursday)
    donna.cameron@unimelb.edu.au
    Microbiological Diagnostic Unit Public Health Laboratory
    The Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity
    792 Elizabeth Street | Melbourne | Victoria | Australia | 3000
    doherty.edu.au

    Hi,

    Just a Friday afternoon question:

    Can anyone provide me with evidence in regards to how long we should leave a room prior to cleaning an airborne precaution room

    o In our local procedure we have 2 hours

    However, I thought that had been decreased to 30minutes

    o I’m aware of the airchanges etc in our negative pressure rooms but this query has come from our Emergency Department.
    Any help greatly appreciated

    Regards

    Janine Egart
    Clinical Nurse Consultant – DDHHS
    Clinical Governance Unit
    p: 07 46166206 | m: 0400704118 (SD: 1947)
    a: Pechy Street, Toowoomba, Qld 4350
    e: Janine.egart@health.qld.gov.au | w: Darling Downs Hospital and Health Service

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    #74291
    Marija Juraja
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    Hi Janine,

    The Centers for Disease Control. Guidelines for Preventing the Transmission of Mycobacterium tuberculosis in Health-Care Settings, MMWR Recommendations and Reports. 2005; 54 (17):1-141 has a good table.
    It depends on the air exchanges as to when its free of 99.9% of contaminants.
    With 12 to 15 air exchanges we say 30 minutes before its safe for staff to enter and clean without wearing a mask.

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    Kind Regards

    Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
    Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
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    Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
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    Hi,

    Just a Friday afternoon question:

    Can anyone provide me with evidence in regards to how long we should leave a room prior to cleaning an airborne precaution room

    o In our local procedure we have 2 hours

    However, I thought that had been decreased to 30minutes

    o I’m aware of the airchanges etc in our negative pressure rooms but this query has come from our Emergency Department.
    Any help greatly appreciated

    Regards

    Janine Egart
    Clinical Nurse Consultant – DDHHS
    Clinical Governance Unit
    p: 07 46166206 | m: 0400704118 (SD: 1947)
    a: Pechy Street, Toowoomba, Qld 4350
    e: Janine.egart@health.qld.gov.au | w: Darling Downs Hospital and Health Service

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    #76982
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    HI Derrick,
    I suggest you look at the Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and Control of Infection in Healthcare, Section 3.1.3 Routine management of the physical environment. Both mental health & aged care are considered as healthcare facilities so the standards apply. https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/our-work/infection-prevention-and-control/guidelines/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019

    Regards,
    Kelly
    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

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    Reduce, re-use, recycle. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Derrick H
    Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 6:02 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Environmental cleaning

    Hi all

    Just wanted to know if anyone has policy or knows of any journals for environmental cleaning in communal living facilities like aged care or mental health facilities.

    Thank you.

    Best regards,

    Derrick Hor
    RN
    Armadale Health Service.
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    #76979
    Lindy Ryan
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    Hello Derrick

    Yes There is a lots out there is can spin your head ..I know ,not sure if this is what you are particularly after with these areas but forwarding just fyi ……hoping you will find what you are after via these links

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/coronavirus-covid-19-resources-for-health-professionals-including-aged-care-providers-pathology-providers-and-health-care-managers

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-environmental-cleaning-and-disinfection-principles-for-health-and-residential-care-facilities

    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-information-about-routine-environmental-cleaning-and-disinfection-in-the-community

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/publications/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l~cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l-app4

    https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/covid-19-information-workplaces/industry-information/general-industry-information/cleaning

    I have also attached some NSW health links but figure you should already have local state docs like we seem to have

    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/community-outpatient.aspx

    http://cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/587164/COVID-19-Infection-Prevention-and-Control-Advice-on-Cleaning-and-Disinfection-in-the-Workplace.pdf

    keep up the great work in Armadale…we all need to stick together and support each other hey!?

    Best of luck & kind regards

    Lindy

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    —–Original Message—–

    Hi all

    Just wanted to know if anyone has policy or knows of any journals for environmental cleaning in communal living facilities like aged care or mental health facilities.

    Thank you.

    Best regards,

    Derrick Hor
    RN
    Armadale Health Service.
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    #76989
    Derrick H
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    Hi

    Thank you to Helen, Kelly and Lindy for replying with some great information. I am trying to write a recommendation to my managers for some guidelines in our mental health ward.

    This has been a great place for resource. Thanks again

    Best regards,

    Derrick Hor
    RN
    Armadale Health Service

    > On 1 Jul 2020, at 1:20 pm, Lindy Ryan (Mid North Coast LHD) wrote:
    >
    > Hello Derrick
    >
    >
    > Yes There is a lots out there is can spin your head ..I know ,not sure if this is what you are particularly after with these areas but forwarding just fyi ……hoping you will find what you are after via these links
    >
    >
    > https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/coronavirus-covid-19-resources-for-health-professionals-including-aged-care-providers-pathology-providers-and-health-care-managers
    >
    >
    > https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-environmental-cleaning-and-disinfection-principles-for-health-and-residential-care-facilities
    >
    > https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-information-about-routine-environmental-cleaning-and-disinfection-in-the-community
    >
    > https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/publications/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l~cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l-app4
    >
    >
    > https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/covid-19-information-workplaces/industry-information/general-industry-information/cleaning
    >
    >
    >
    > I have also attached some NSW health links but figure you should already have local state docs like we seem to have
    >
    > https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/community-outpatient.aspx
    >
    >
    > http://cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/587164/COVID-19-Infection-Prevention-and-Control-Advice-on-Cleaning-and-Disinfection-in-the-Workplace.pdf
    >
    >
    > keep up the great work in Armadale…we all need to stick together and support each other hey!?
    >
    > Best of luck & kind regards
    >
    > Lindy
    >
    >
    > Lindy Ryan
    >
    > District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance & Information Services MNCLHD
    > Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
    > Office 66911984 or Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@health.nsw.gov.au
    > http://www.health.nsw.gov.au
    >
    >
    >
    > “Wise and humane management of the patient is the best safeguard against infection”
    > (Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)
    >
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Derrick H
    > Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 6:02 PM
    > To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    > Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Environmental cleaning
    >
    > Hi all
    >
    > Just wanted to know if anyone has policy or knows of any journals for environmental cleaning in communal living facilities like aged care or mental health facilities.
    >
    > Thank you.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Derrick Hor
    > RN
    > Armadale Health Service.
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