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    Hi All,

    For those of you that complete endoscopy water testing as per AS4187 Table 7.3…

    I would like to know if anyone has decided to create a tolerance level for the Total Viable Count (TVC)? (I am not asking this for any of the specific organisms we test for, just TVC)

    Table 7.3 requires TVC <10cfu per 100ml – if you don't achieve this and your level is over 10, do you:

    * immediately close your automated endoscopy reprocessing (AER) machine and run a disinfection cycle / change filter / retest whilst keeping your machine out of operation until clear results are seen?

    OR

    * immediately run a disinfection cycle / change filter / retest whilst allowing your machine to continue to be used after this?
    * If this is your option – do you have an agreed level of HCC that this applies to i.e. up to 100cfu per 100mL as an example?

    Essentially, I would like to know if anyone stipulates a range where they are happy to continue using the machine even though TVC may be over 10cfu?
    Thanks for your consideration of this,

    Kind regards

    Kate Ryan

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    Hi Kate,

    The updated 2021 Infection Control Guidelines for Endoscopy – available through GENCA, now have a flow chart for AERs (on page 60).

    I basically follow this, though you can end up in a never ending loop!. Noting it can take a while to fix biofilm related water contamination.

    We have also discussed with the company, there may be other options to assist to remove biofilm etc.

    Happy to discuss further if required

    Mandy Davidson
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    Hi All,

    For those of you that complete endoscopy water testing as per AS4187 Table 7.3…

    I would like to know if anyone has decided to create a tolerance level for the Total Viable Count (TVC)? (I am not asking this for any of the specific organisms we test for, just TVC)

    Table 7.3 requires TVC <10cfu per 100ml – if you don't achieve this and your level is over 10, do you:

    * immediately close your automated endoscopy reprocessing (AER) machine and run a disinfection cycle / change filter / retest whilst keeping your machine out of operation until clear results are seen?
    OR

    * immediately run a disinfection cycle / change filter / retest whilst allowing your machine to continue to be used after this?

    * If this is your option – do you have an agreed level of HCC that this applies to i.e. up to 100cfu per 100mL as an example?
    Essentially, I would like to know if anyone stipulates a range where they are happy to continue using the machine even though TVC may be over 10cfu?
    Thanks for your consideration of this,

    Kind regards

    Kate Ryan

    RMD Program Officer

    [logo_austin]

    0434 609 208 | 03 9496 6706

    Infectious Diseases Department

    Level 7, Harold Stokes Building

    145 Studley Road, Heidelberg

    PO Box 5555, Victoria, 3084

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