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    Draycott, Sue (DHHS)
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    Dear All
    Here at the Royal Hobart Hospital we are in the detailed design stage of our major redevelopment project, and we are currently investigating the pros and cons of the electronic sensor taps for our clinical hand basins. I have undertaken a literature search and it appears that some facilities that have installed the newer sensor taps, as an infection prevention and control improvement activity, are now removing them and returning to the more traditional elbow taps.
    The literature suggests that the complexity of the internal workings of the electronic tap and the lower dynamic water flow, could contribute to the higher level of legionella and other waterborne bacteria found by some studies.
    I am very interested to hear from facilities within Australia, regarding what type of tap ware has been installed within newly refurbished areas or new construction projects.
    Kind Regards

    Sue Draycott
    Infection Control Manager
    Redevelopment RHH and CCC Services
    Southern Tasmania Area Health Service

    Level 9, A Block, Royal Hobart Hospital
    Liverpool Street
    Hobart, 7000

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    Jane Tomlinson
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    HI Sue
    Queensland Children’s hospital – currently under construction – go live in 2015 went with a mix of sensor taps for type1 sinks, and hand control but levers on wall not on basin top for type 2 and 3 sinks
    regards
    Jane

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    >>> “Draycott, Sue (DHHS)” 27/02/13 11:53 >>>

    Dear All
    Here at the Royal Hobart Hospital we are in the detailed design stage of our major redevelopment project, and we are currently investigating the pros and cons of the electronic sensor taps for our clinical hand basins. I have undertaken a literature search and it appears that some facilities that have installed the newer sensor taps, as an infection prevention and control improvement activity, are now removing them and returning to the more traditional elbow taps.
    The literature suggests that the complexity of the internal workings of the electronic tap and the lower dynamic water flow, could contribute to the higher level of legionella and other waterborne bacteria found by some studies.
    I am very interested to hear from facilities within Australia, regarding what type of tap ware has been installed within newly refurbished areas or new construction projects.
    Kind Regards

    Sue Draycott
    Infection Control Manager
    Redevelopment RHH and CCC Services
    Southern Tasmania Area Health Service

    Level 9, A Block, Royal Hobart Hospital
    Liverpool Street
    Hobart, 7000

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    #69760
    Fiona de Sousa
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    Hi Sue,

    Our facility has the electronic sensor taps and we are also installing them in our redevelopment as well.
    In our investigation of taps we were told that some facilities were going back to elbow operated ones, however when I contacted these places to find out why their decisions were based on initial cost of the sensor taps to purchase.

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa
    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital
    Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
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    Dear All
    Here at the Royal Hobart Hospital we are in the detailed design stage of our major redevelopment project, and we are currently investigating the pros and cons of the electronic sensor taps for our clinical hand basins. I have undertaken a literature search and it appears that some facilities that have installed the newer sensor taps, as an infection prevention and control improvement activity, are now removing them and returning to the more traditional elbow taps.
    The literature suggests that the complexity of the internal workings of the electronic tap and the lower dynamic water flow, could contribute to the higher level of legionella and other waterborne bacteria found by some studies.
    I am very interested to hear from facilities within Australia, regarding what type of tap ware has been installed within newly refurbished areas or new construction projects.
    Kind Regards

    Sue Draycott
    Infection Control Manager
    Redevelopment RHH and CCC Services
    Southern Tasmania Area Health Service

    Level 9, A Block, Royal Hobart Hospital
    Liverpool Street
    Hobart, 7000

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    #69761
    Matt Mason
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    Hi Sue,
    You need to think about how will they work without power. If they are not on the uninterrupted supply then staff will be unable to use them if the power is out. One facility I worked at also had an issue with water temperature with these taps as you could not run them to allow the temperature to increase. This is more of an installation issue rather than a tap issue though. Maintenance and repair costs are also more than hand operated taps and need to be considered over the life of the product.
    Cheers Matt

    Matt Mason
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    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Nutrition
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    #69790
    Jane Barnett
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    I agree with comment about loss of power as it clearly then makes them unusable as your back up generator may only support ‘essential’ power needs- we lost both power and water in our EQ though so had to resort to alcohol gel anyway! However, in a private new build facility I’m involved in we’ve planned to install only in theatre scrub bays and procedure room scrub bays partly for these reasons and partly cost. They are installed in our neonatal unit here and there were issues with sensitivity of them initially (triggering when someone walks past) but I’m sure they have improved the design considerably since these were installed (7 years ago).

    Jane Barnett
    Infection Prevention & Control Nurse Specialist
    Christchurch Women’s Hospital
    3644510 or int 85510
    Pager 5200

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    Hi Sue,
    You need to think about how will they work without power. If they are not on the uninterrupted supply then staff will be unable to use them if the power is out. One facility I worked at also had an issue with water temperature with these taps as you could not run them to allow the temperature to increase. This is more of an installation issue rather than a tap issue though. Maintenance and repair costs are also more than hand operated taps and need to be considered over the life of the product.
    Cheers Matt

    Matt Mason
    RN, BNSci, Grad Dip (Remote Health), M Rural Health, M Adv Prac (Inf Cont), CICP

    Lecturer/Campus Co-ordinator
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Nutrition
    James Cook University
    Thursday Island
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    #69791
    Fiona de Sousa
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    Hi All,

    We have included the sensor taps on our emergency power, therefore if power is lost to the building the taps still work. Also when you install them you need to choose the location and type of sensor carefully as the various types perform differently. Following testing of different types our preferred option is a wall sensor mounted directly above the sink. We have had poor experience with sensors located in the base of the water spout (fail to easily) and to the side of the sink (too sensitive when you walk past).

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa
    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital
    Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
    185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076

    —–Original Message—–

    I agree with comment about loss of power as it clearly then makes them unusable as your back up generator may only support ‘essential’ power needs- we lost both power and water in our EQ though so had to resort to alcohol gel anyway! However, in a private new build facility I’m involved in we’ve planned to install only in theatre scrub bays and procedure room scrub bays partly for these reasons and partly cost. They are installed in our neonatal unit here and there were issues with sensitivity of them initially (triggering when someone walks past) but I’m sure they have improved the design considerably since these were installed (7 years ago).

    Jane Barnett
    Infection Prevention & Control Nurse Specialist Christchurch Women’s Hospital
    3644510 or int 85510
    Pager 5200

    —–Original Message—–
    Hi Sue,
    You need to think about how will they work without power. If they are not on the uninterrupted supply then staff will be unable to use them if the power is out. One facility I worked at also had an issue with water temperature with these taps as you could not run them to allow the temperature to increase. This is more of an installation issue rather than a tap issue though. Maintenance and repair costs are also more than hand operated taps and need to be considered over the life of the product.
    Cheers Matt

    Matt Mason
    RN, BNSci, Grad Dip (Remote Health), M Rural Health, M Adv Prac (Inf Cont), CICP

    Lecturer/Campus Co-ordinator
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Nutrition James Cook University Thursday Island Qld, 4875 Australia

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    #69792
    TERRI CRIPPS
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    Hi,

    We have included sensor taps in our paediatric ICU. It is attached to emergency power, like at the SAN. When the PICU staff wanted to install them, I did some research and read the attached document. I have had no problem with them since they were installed and the staff love them. When they were installed the spout did not meet the criteria of the Healthcare Facility Guidelines so we had to go with a longer spout so that the water did not directly hit the plug hole.

    Thanks,

    Terri Cripps | Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control | Sydney Childrens Hospital
    : (02) 9382 1876 | fax: (02) 9382 2084 |( : terri.cripps@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au| :www.sch.edu.au| page: 47140

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Fiona de Sousa
    Sent: Friday, 1 March 2013 2:20 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps

    Hi All,

    We have included the sensor taps on our emergency power, therefore if power is lost to the building the taps still work. Also when you install them you need to choose the location and type of sensor carefully as the various types perform differently. Following testing of different types our preferred option is a wall sensor mounted directly above the sink. We have had poor experience with sensors located in the base of the water spout (fail to easily) and to the side of the sink (too sensitive when you walk past).

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa
    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital
    Mobile: 0408 468 470
    Office: (02) 9487 9732
    Fax: (02) 9472 8053
    Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
    185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Jane Barnett
    Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 1:47 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps

    I agree with comment about loss of power as it clearly then makes them unusable as your back up generator may only support ‘essential’ power needs- we lost both power and water in our EQ though so had to resort to alcohol gel anyway! However, in a private new build facility I’m involved in we’ve planned to install only in theatre scrub bays and procedure room scrub bays partly for these reasons and partly cost. They are installed in our neonatal unit here and there were issues with sensitivity of them initially (triggering when someone walks past) but I’m sure they have improved the design considerably since these were installed (7 years ago).

    Jane Barnett
    Infection Prevention & Control Nurse Specialist Christchurch Women’s Hospital
    3644510 or int 85510
    Pager 5200

    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion on behalf of Mason, Matt
    Sent: Wed 2/27/2013 3:20 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Electronic Sensor Taps

    Hi Sue,
    You need to think about how will they work without power. If they are not on the uninterrupted supply then staff will be unable to use them if the power is out. One facility I worked at also had an issue with water temperature with these taps as you could not run them to allow the temperature to increase. This is more of an installation issue rather than a tap issue though. Maintenance and repair costs are also more than hand operated taps and need to be considered over the life of the product.
    Cheers Matt

    Matt Mason
    RN, BNSci, Grad Dip (Remote Health), M Rural Health, M Adv Prac (Inf Cont), CICP

    Lecturer/Campus Co-ordinator
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Nutrition James Cook University Thursday Island Qld, 4875 Australia

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    #69799
    Sony SO
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    Hi,

    We have installed Electronic Sensor Taps in many workplaces, and the installed taps are operated by standalone power ie AA battery. If we found the tap is not functioning, usually the questioned taps will show delay in response to motion, we will call our maintenance staff to change the battery.

    Regards,

    Sony SO
    Nursing Officer, Infection Control Team
    Kwong Wah Hospital
    Hong Kong SAR, CHINA
    Tel:+ 852 3517-2409 Fax: +852 2332-3348 email:sony@ha.org.hk
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of TERRI CRIPPS
    Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 11:48 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps

    Hi,

    We have included sensor taps in our paediatric ICU. It is attached to emergency power, like at the SAN. When the PICU staff wanted to install them, I did some research and read the attached document. I have had no problem with them since they were installed and the staff love them. When they were installed the spout did not meet the criteria of the Healthcare Facility Guidelines so we had to go with a longer spout so that the water did not directly hit the plug hole.

    Thanks,

    Terri Cripps | Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control | Sydney Childrens Hospital

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Fiona de Sousa

    Sent: Friday, 1 March 2013 2:20 PM

    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU

    Subject: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps

    Hi All,

    We have included the sensor taps on our emergency power, therefore if power is lost to the building the taps still work. Also when you install them you need to choose the location and type of sensor carefully as the various types perform differently. Following testing of different types our preferred option is a wall sensor mounted directly above the sink. We have had poor experience with sensors located in the base of the water spout (fail to easily) and to the side of the sink (too sensitive when you walk past).

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa

    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator Sydney Adventist Hospital

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Jane Barnett

    Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 1:47 PM

    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU

    Subject: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps

    I agree with comment about loss of power as it clearly then makes them unusable as your back up generator may only support ‘essential’ power needs- we lost both power and water in our EQ though so had to resort to alcohol gel anyway! However, in a private new build facility I’m involved in we’ve planned to install only in theatre scrub bays and procedure room scrub bays partly for these reasons and partly cost. They are installed in our neonatal unit here and there were issues with sensitivity of them initially (triggering when someone walks past) but I’m sure they have improved the design considerably since these were installed (7 years ago).

    Jane Barnett

    Infection Prevention & Control Nurse Specialist Christchurch Women’s Hospital

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion on behalf of Mason, Matt

    Sent: Wed 2/27/2013 3:20 PM

    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU

    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Electronic Sensor Taps

    Hi Sue,

    You need to think about how will they work without power. If they are not on the uninterrupted supply then staff will be unable to use them if the power is out. One facility I worked at also had an issue with water temperature with these taps as you could not run them to allow the temperature to increase. This is more of an installation issue rather than a tap issue though. Maintenance and repair costs are also more than hand operated taps and need to be considered over the life of the product.

    Cheers Matt

    Matt Mason

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