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    Wilson, Fiona (TIPCU)
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    I have received a query regarding electrolysed water for use as a sanitising and cleaning agent for hand washing, environmental cleaning as well as food rinsing/cleaning. Apparently there are facilities that use this product so am wondering if anyone has a) heard about it and b) uses it for hand hygiene and environmental cleaning etc.

    Regards

    Fiona Wilson I CNC, Infection Control, TIPCU
    Population Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
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    Matthias Maiwald (KKH)
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    Dear Fiona,

    There was an earlier thread about this in Infexion Connexion and also in OzBug where this was discussed. Not sure when, but it might have been about 1-2 years ago. The gist was, and my take on it was, that scepticism is warranted.

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
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    I have received a query regarding electrolysed water for use as a sanitising and cleaning agent for hand washing, environmental cleaning as well as food rinsing/cleaning. Apparently there are facilities that use this product so am wondering if anyone has a) heard about it and b) uses it for hand hygiene and environmental cleaning etc.

    Regards

    Fiona Wilson I CNC, Infection Control, TIPCU
    Population Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
    Post GPO Box 125 Hobart Tas 7001 | Email tipcu@dhhs.tas.gov.au
    Phone (03) 6222 7684 | Fax (03) 6233 0553
    A fair and healthy Tasmania

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    #70728
    Wilson, Fiona (TIPCU)
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    Thanks Matthias – should have looked at the archives first. The upshot was that it may be useful in the food industry but probably not so much in healthcare (especially for handwashing).
    Regards
    PS – my scepticism is intact

    Fiona Wilson I CNC, Infection Control, TIPCU
    Population Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
    Post GPO Box 125 Hobart Tas 7001 | Email tipcu@dhhs.tas.gov.au
    Phone (03) 6222 7684 | Fax (03) 6233 0553
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    Dear Fiona,

    There was an earlier thread about this in Infexion Connexion and also in OzBug where this was discussed. Not sure when, but it might have been about 1-2 years ago. The gist was, and my take on it was, that scepticism is warranted.

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)
    Tel. +65 6394 1389 (Laboratory)
    Fax +65 6394 1387

    I have received a query regarding electrolysed water for use as a sanitising and cleaning agent for hand washing, environmental cleaning as well as food rinsing/cleaning. Apparently there are facilities that use this product so am wondering if anyone has a) heard about it and b) uses it for hand hygiene and environmental cleaning etc.

    Regards

    Fiona Wilson I CNC, Infection Control, TIPCU
    Population Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
    Post GPO Box 125 Hobart Tas 7001 | Email tipcu@dhhs.tas.gov.au
    Phone (03) 6222 7684 | Fax (03) 6233 0553
    A fair and healthy Tasmania

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    #70729
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Fiona

    As Matthias noted, this issue was discussed back in about June 2012. I would be particularly concerned about any claims for using electrolysed water (which is basically hydrochlorous acid) for hand washing. Although it may be non-toxic, the defatting and denaturing of skin oils could cause major skin drying. This is one of the main reasons why our alcoholic skin sanitisers have added moisturising agents, and are not just alcohol alone. Using pure alcohol on a regular basis as a hand sanitising agent can lead to major skin problems (those of us old enough to remember using alcohol as a drying agent as part of surgical scrubbing technique may remember this). So I would be very wary of subjecting any staff to electrolysed water as a hand sanitiser.

    I can’t really comment on the use of electrolysed water for sanitation of food preparation equipment or environmental surfaces, except to say: where is the evidence of efficacy under normal usage conditions?

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Dear Fiona,

    There was an earlier thread about this in Infexion Connexion and also in OzBug where this was discussed. Not sure when, but it might have been about 1-2 years ago. The gist was, and my take on it was, that scepticism is warranted.

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)
    Tel. +65 6394 1389 (Laboratory)
    Fax +65 6394 1387

    I have received a query regarding electrolysed water for use as a sanitising and cleaning agent for hand washing, environmental cleaning as well as food rinsing/cleaning. Apparently there are facilities that use this product so am wondering if anyone has a) heard about it and b) uses it for hand hygiene and environmental cleaning etc.

    Regards

    Fiona Wilson I CNC, Infection Control, TIPCU
    Population Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
    Post GPO Box 125 Hobart Tas 7001 | Email tipcu@dhhs.tas.gov.au
    Phone (03) 6222 7684 | Fax (03) 6233 0553
    A fair and healthy Tasmania

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