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  • #75804
    Michael Wishart
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    Dear team

    I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.

    Kind regards
    Leanne Sheppard
    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

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    #75805
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    Hi Leanne,
    The NSW MoH Infection Prevention & Control Policy PD2017_013 section states;
    Flip-top pharmaceutical vials are a dust cover and therefore all vials must be cleaned prior to access to maintain aseptic technique.
    Injectable medication or solution must be taken from a vial or ampoule (or other similar container) using a sterile needle and syringe to withdraw the contents.
    Before each entry into the multi-dose vial the top must be cleaned and injected with a new unused sterile needle and syringe, even if the vial is dedicated to a single patient.
    Regards
    Catherine Wade

    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control (IPAC)
    Level 6, K6 (Close Observation Unit)
    Gosford Hospital, Holden Street, GOSFORD NSW 2250
    Tel: (02) 4320 2664 | Internal Ext: 92664 | Page: 18885
    Fax:(02) 4320 2874 | Internal Fax: 92874
    Catherine.Wade@health.nsw.gov.au or CCLHD-IPAC@health.nsw.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Friday, 13 September 2019 9:32 AM
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    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Drawing up IV solutions

    [Posted on behalf of member Moderator]

    Dear team

    I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.

    Kind regards
    Leanne Sheppard
    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

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    #75806
    Leanne Sheppard
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    I have a question about employment as an infection control nurse:

    What is the general consensus on appropriate qualifications for an
    infection control nurse?
    What is the minimum qualifications your organisation would employ as
    an infection control nurse?

    Leanne Sheppard

    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN

    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

    On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 9:32 AM Michael Wishart
    wrote:
    >
    > [Posted on behalf of member Moderator]
    >
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    >
    > Dear team
    >
    >
    >
    > I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    >
    > I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.
    >
    >
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Leanne Sheppard
    >
    > BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    >
    > Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program
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    #75809
    Angela Carvosso
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    Angela Carvosso

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    Hi Leanne,

    It is standard procedure to use a drawing up needle for saline and to swab vials and let them dry before piercing them. For flushes best practice is a pre filled saline syringe that comes in 5 and 10 mL with a 10mL bore on both. Even using a drawing up needle there is an 8.6% chance of contaminating your fluids. If they touch the outside of the ampoule with their needle they should be taught to throw it away and start again. I also teach to swab the injection port of the saline bag if hanging the drug even though it has been sterilized. Sterilisation only guarantees 97% kill so any bugs left alive may still be there. Dry time is key for swabbing as it is your kill time.

    Regards Angela Carvosso
    RN Warwick Hospital

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    [Posted on behalf of member Moderator]

    Dear team

    I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.

    Kind regards
    Leanne Sheppard
    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

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    Deen, Sharon
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    #75967
    Anonymous
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    Hi Leanne,
    I think that varies greatly! In my circumstance I was seconded to the position with no experience what so ever. Often in small rural health the person doing infection control just gets an extra hat for whatever reason. I have seen it go hand in hand with theatre roles, quality roles, ADON roles. We are extremely lucky in our region to have 2 regional consultants to play pivotal roles when this occurs and support the novices.
    Most of the larger hospitals seem to have very specific requirements.

    Kelly
    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

    Kelly Barton
    Infection Prevention & Control Officer
    RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse Immuniser.
    Email: kelly.barton@alpinehealth.org.au
    Office: 03 5751 9364
    Mobile: 0409 885 002
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    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Leanne Sheppard
    Sent: Friday, 13 September 2019 9:41 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Drawing up IV solutions

    I have a question about employment as an infection control nurse:

    What is the general consensus on appropriate qualifications for an infection control nurse?
    What is the minimum qualifications your organisation would employ as an infection control nurse?

    Leanne Sheppard

    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN

    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

    On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 9:32 AM Michael Wishart wrote:
    >
    > [Posted on behalf of member Moderator]
    >
    >
    >
    > Dear team
    >
    >
    >
    > I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    >
    > I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.
    >
    >
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Leanne Sheppard
    >
    > BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    >
    > Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing
    > program
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    #75968
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart

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    Hi Leanne

    Whilst there are no exact national guidelines for educational requirement for infection prevention and control professionals, a number of bodies of work have been published in the Australian context around this (eg https://www.idhjournal.com.au/article/S2468-0451(16)30267-X/pdf).

    The NHMRC national infection control guidelines (https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/australian-guidelines-prevention-and-control-infection-healthcare-2019) also have quite a good discussion on the educational requirements for infection control practitioners (section 4.3) and would be a great resource for any facility who is looking to employ an infection prevention and control professional.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Kelly Barton
    Sent: Monday, 4 November 2019 8:08 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Drawing up IV solutions

    Hi Leanne,
    I think that varies greatly! In my circumstance I was seconded to the position with no experience what so ever. Often in small rural health the person doing infection control just gets an extra hat for whatever reason. I have seen it go hand in hand with theatre roles, quality roles, ADON roles. We are extremely lucky in our region to have 2 regional consultants to play pivotal roles when this occurs and support the novices.
    Most of the larger hospitals seem to have very specific requirements.

    Kelly
    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

    Kelly Barton
    Infection Prevention & Control Officer
    RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse Immuniser.
    Email: kelly.barton@alpinehealth.org.au
    Office: 03 5751 9364
    Mobile: 0409 885 002
    Fax: 03 5751 9396
    Address: 30 ODonnell Ave, Myrtleford VIC 3737
    Website:www.alpinehealth.org.au
    Reduce, re-use, recycle. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Leanne Sheppard
    Sent: Friday, 13 September 2019 9:41 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Drawing up IV solutions

    I have a question about employment as an infection control nurse:

    What is the general consensus on appropriate qualifications for an infection control nurse?
    What is the minimum qualifications your organisation would employ as an infection control nurse?

    Leanne Sheppard

    BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN

    Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing program

    On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 9:32 AM Michael Wishart wrote:
    >
    > [Posted on behalf of member Moderator]
    >
    >
    >
    > Dear team
    >
    >
    >
    > I have a question are your staff using drawing up needles to prepare IV flushes and ABs from plastic vials or swabbing the vials with alcohol wipes then direct connecting the syringe to draw up?
    >
    > I would like to know so I can teach best practice infection control to the students.
    >
    >
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Leanne Sheppard
    >
    > BN, MPH, TAE, GDip Adult Ed, GC CFHN
    >
    > Casual facilitator University of Newcastle Undergraduate nursing
    > program
    >
    >
    >
    >
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