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    Allison Hodge, CNC Infection Control, Ballarat Health Services
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    Allison Hodge, CNC Infection Control, Ballarat Health Services
    I have seen different practices in my workplace in relation to drawing up saline from plastic ampoules deemed to be needle-less. There are differing views on the best aseptic way to do this. Some believe it acceptable to connect the syringe hub to the opened ampoule top (key part to sterile opening); others believe for hub protection a needle should be used to draw up the saline, adding a step to the procedure. My extensive research has shown both methods used but failed to give me clear rationale for either. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Do you know of any evidence for rationale? What do you recommend in your workplace and why?
    Thank you

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    Beth Bint
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    Hi Alison

    What type of syringe are you using, a luer-slip or a luer-lock?

    In principle one could argue that with careful technique it could be assured that the key part of a luer-slip syringe would only have contact with the key part of the plastic ampoule.

    However, my personal opinion is that the same assurance can’t be extended to the use of a luer-lock syringe as the luer-lock part of the syringe (a key part) has direct contact with the external “non-sterile” part of the plastic ampoule.

    I am not sure how this may add to any of the information you already have, but it has certainly been a discussion point on our site as well. I will be very interested to hear from other members regarding this matter.

    Cheers
    Beth

    Beth Bint

    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Management and Control Service
    Level 1 Lawson House, Wollongong Hospital 2500, NSW
    Tel. 02 4222 5869 | Fax. 02 4222 5367 | beth.bint@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Allison Hodge, CNC Infection Control, Ballarat Health Services
    Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 5:49 PM
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    Subject: Drawing up from plastic ampoules for intravenous use

    Allison Hodge, CNC Infection Control, Ballarat Health Services
    I have seen different practices in my workplace in relation to drawing up saline from plastic ampoules deemed to be needle-less. There are differing views on the best aseptic way to do this. Some believe it acceptable to connect the syringe hub to the opened ampoule top (key part to sterile opening); others believe for hub protection a needle should be used to draw up the saline, adding a step to the procedure. My extensive research has shown both methods used but failed to give me clear rationale for either. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Do you know of any evidence for rationale? What do you recommend in your workplace and why?
    Thank you

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    Jane Barnett
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    Hi
    We had the same issues raised when the organisation switched away from luer slip to luer lock for safety reasons – as a result we introduced blunt drawing up needles for this purpose.

    Jane Barnett
    Infection Prevention & Control Nurse Specialist
    Christchurch Women’s Hospital
    3644510 or int 85510
    Pager 5200

    —–Original Message—–
    Hi Alison

    What type of syringe are you using, a luer-slip or a luer-lock?

    In principle one could argue that with careful technique it could be assured that the key part of a luer-slip syringe would only have contact with the key part of the plastic ampoule.

    However, my personal opinion is that the same assurance can’t be extended to the use of a luer-lock syringe as the luer-lock part of the syringe (a key part) has direct contact with the external “non-sterile” part of the plastic ampoule.

    I am not sure how this may add to any of the information you already have, but it has certainly been a discussion point on our site as well. I will be very interested to hear from other members regarding this matter.

    Cheers
    Beth

    Beth Bint

    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Management and Control Service
    Level 1 Lawson House, Wollongong Hospital 2500, NSW
    Tel. 02 4222 5869 | Fax. 02 4222 5367 | beth.bint@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au

    —–Original Message—–

    Allison Hodge, CNC Infection Control, Ballarat Health Services
    I have seen different practices in my workplace in relation to drawing up saline from plastic ampoules deemed to be needle-less. There are differing views on the best aseptic way to do this. Some believe it acceptable to connect the syringe hub to the opened ampoule top (key part to sterile opening); others believe for hub protection a needle should be used to draw up the saline, adding a step to the procedure. My extensive research has shown both methods used but failed to give me clear rationale for either. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Do you know of any evidence for rationale? What do you recommend in your workplace and why?
    Thank you

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