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04/03/2014 at 12:23 pm #70871Denyer, VickiParticipant
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Hi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
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04/03/2014 at 12:29 pm #70872Rebecca O’DonnellParticipantAuthor:
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HI Vicky,
We now have disposable curtains in our ICU and ED department.
Kind regards,
Rebecca O’Donnell | Infection Prevention and Control Co-ordinator
St Vincent’s Hospital Toowoomba | 22-36 Scott Street TOOWOOMBA 4350
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Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
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04/03/2014 at 12:40 pm #70875Catherine MowatParticipantAuthor:
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We have them in our critical care unit. Been in since October so not sure how the cost will work out over a full 12 months.
Cathy Mowat
Central Gippsland Health ServiceHi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
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04/03/2014 at 12:43 pm #70877Hi Vicki,
We are currently trialling in the ICU and EC dept. Many other areas have expressed a desire to also use them (as they look so good), but as yet the trial sites have not been extended.
Kind regards,Fiona De Sousa
Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076Hi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
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04/03/2014 at 12:44 pm #70876Denyer, VickiParticipantAuthor:
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Thank you Rebecca, could I ask why just these areas & not throughout please?
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
HI Vicky,
We now have disposable curtains in our ICU and ED department.
Kind regards,
Rebecca O’Donnell | Infection Prevention and Control Co-ordinator
St Vincent’s Hospital Toowoomba | 22-36 Scott Street TOOWOOMBA 4350
T 07 4690 4042 | F 07 46904400
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Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
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04/03/2014 at 12:52 pm #70879Denyer, VickiParticipantAuthor:
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Thank you Fiona, sorry to annoy but could you tell me why trialling in ICU & ED?
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
Hi Vicki,
We are currently trialling in the ICU and EC dept. Many other areas have expressed a desire to also use them (as they look so good), but as yet the trial sites have not been extended.
Kind regards,Fiona De Sousa
Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076Hi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
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04/03/2014 at 2:03 pm #70889Maree SommervilleParticipantAuthor:
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I have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to
raise an issue/questionMy organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its
environmental footprint.We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which
provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related
to environmental concerns.One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes
generated with the goal to reduce.One of the major changes in providing health services since I began
nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of
disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing,
endotracheal tubes, and surgical gloves…the list goes on.Some of these are absolutely ‘no-brainers’ when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence
in landfill, prior to breaking down.How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in
contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759
________________________________
Behalf Of Denyer, Vicki
Hi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable
curtain/screens in their facilitiesThe issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are
questioning their use.Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal
cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves
the replacement of curtains).The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there
were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which
were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the
implementation of the disposable curtains.Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has
disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au________________________________
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04/03/2014 at 2:12 pm #70891Great comment and in line with the Australian Govt waste reduction strategies from last year, we are developing a recycling process to manage this. We also recycle our metal instruments.
Tain Gardiner Clinical Nurse Manager
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p… (08) 892 28045 pager # 0239| f… (08) 892 28889 e…Tain.Gardiner@nt.gov.auFrom: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Maree Sommerville
Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:34 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: Disposable curtains/screensI have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical glovesthe list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely no-brainers when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759________________________________
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Denyer, Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:23 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Disposable curtains/screensHi All,
Have a small issue Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[cid:image001.png@01CF37A4.8C44D840]
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04/03/2014 at 2:21 pm #70893Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Marie
Great questions to ask. I would also like to point out that reusable curtains that require regular laundering or dry cleaning also have an environmental footprint, and this must be taken in consideration when looking at environmental impacts. Since this is often outside of the health facility, sometimes it is left out of the discussions. Laundries in particular are great users of energy and their environmental impact is massive.
Cheers
Michael;Michael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:04 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: Disposable curtains/screensI have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical glovesthe list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely no-brainers when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759________________________________
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Denyer, Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:23 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Disposable curtains/screensHi All,
Have a small issue Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[Description: cid:image001.png@01CE7F1B.E103A4C0]
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04/03/2014 at 2:53 pm #70895Glenys HarringtonParticipantAuthor:
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Interesting discussion and good points Maree re: the issue of waste disposal.
What is the evidence that disposable curtains reduce the risk infections? Im not aware of any but happy to be corrected.
If there is no evidence then this is not an infection control issue.
From those responding to this thread it seems like most sites introduced disposable curtains/screens for either aesthetics, poor terminal cleaning resulting in increased turnaround times (a management issue) or HCW occupational health and safety issue.
Hence while there may be other reasons for introducing disposable curtains/screens HCF executive management need to be made aware of the following:
the lack of evidence to support the introduction disposable curtains/screens as an infection control strategy to reduce infections
the need to offset the introduction costs against the increased cost that will be associated with disposal of disposable curtains/screens.
Regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
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Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
PO Box 5202
Middle Park
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H: +61 3 96902216
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I have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical glovesthe list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely no-brainers when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?
Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759
_____
Hi All,
Have a small issue Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.
Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au_____
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04/03/2014 at 3:05 pm #70901Donnelly, LynneParticipantAuthor:
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Hi
The disposable curtains we use in ICU and ED are recyclable category 5. If you want the brand details please contact me directly.
Lynne Donnelly I Clinical Nurse Consultant
Armadale Health Service I Infection Prevention and Management
3056 Albany Highway, Armadale I PO Box 460 Armadale WA 6992
Ph: 08 9391 2068 I Fax: 08 9391 2252I Mob: 0437480210 I Lynne.Donnelly@health.wa.gov.au I http://www.ahs.health.wa.gov.auFrom: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Maree Sommerville
Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 11:04 AM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: Disposable curtains/screensI have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical glovesthe list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely no-brainers when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?
Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759
________________________________
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Denyer, Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:23 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Disposable curtains/screensHi All,
Have a small issue Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.
Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
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04/03/2014 at 3:55 pm #70897Hi Maree
I too have been around for many years in the Theatre and then into the CSSD and more recently in Infection Prevention and Control arena. Whilst I appreciate the rationale for the need for single use items and agree with the list you mentioned I too have a real concern for the ever increasing push to single use especially non critical items such as curtains and wonder where will it end? I am of the opinion there is a place for both single use and reusable products in our industry but we need to be more responsible in the choices we make and consider the impact these choices will make on future generations.
Just a foot note these days the advances in technology mean water savings, recycle programs and add to that highly sophisticated machines with power saving attributes the environmental footprint generated in the reprocessing is minimal in the modern laundry.
Clinical Nurse Consultant
Somaia Group
45 Holloway Drive Bayswater. Vic. 3153
M: 0419306845
E:sfinch@simbatex.com.au
Hi Marie
Great questions to ask. I would also like to point out that reusable curtains that require regular laundering or dry cleaning also have an environmental footprint, and this must be taken in consideration when looking at environmental impacts. Since this is often outside of the health facility, sometimes it is left out of the discussions. Laundries in particular are great users of energy and their environmental impact is massive.
Cheers
Michael;
Michael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
w: http://www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
Please consider the environment before printing this email
I have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical glovesthe list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely no-brainers when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?
Maree Sommerville
Infection Control Coordinator
Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
(03) 8458 4759
_____
Hi All,
Have a small issue Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.
Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
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04/03/2014 at 4:24 pm #70899Thomson, Rachel EAParticipantAuthor:
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Hi all,
I would like to put out there some thoughts and observations in relation to disposable biocidal curtains from a personal perspective.
The biocidal curtains currently on the market have one property that has got nothing to do with Infection Prevention & Control, but a property that makes these items very appealing to organisations (and managers within them). That is, that they are light weight and relatively easy to change. This would seem to have a couple of distinct advantages therefore over traditional cloth curtains, that is;
* Reduced risk of injury during curtain change
* Likely increased compliance with a request to change
(I am aware that others have now commented on these benefits)There is then the infection prevention and control perspective. I would like to comment on this.
I do not believe that the product information and the available literature is as clear in relation to the Infection Prevention & Control properties as we might like it to be (or might think it to be). The testing that is applied to these curtains, as I understand it, is a ‘modified Kirby-Bauer test’. This test (again as I understand it) measures disinfectant or antiseptic susceptibility of various organisms on a modified agar plate. Bacteria are applied to the agar and, for the purposes of these tests, a square centimetre of the biocidal fabric is placed on the plate and inhibition zones are measured in millimetres. These measurements are taken with the use of ultra-violet light to increase the exposure rate and extrapolated results are taken from these findings. This may be a simplistic interpretation of this test and I would welcome comment from the more ‘microbiologically-minded’ subscribers to the list. My comments on this testing methodology for the efficacy of the curtains are the following;
* Testing does not include ‘real world’ data. The transferability and reliability of the modelling and results achieved from the modified Kirby-Bauer testing is not clear to me.
* Whilst a known quantity of a known pathogen is tested with this fabric, there is no capacity to understand if this actually relates to alternate inoculation methodologies. E.g. From multiple contaminated hand touching of the curtain on the leading edge through to faeces splattered onto fabric etc.
* Testing against agents such as non-enveloped viruses (e.g. norovirus) is not documented or reported on in the product literature. If there is no testing data, what action will need to be taken to ensure safety?
One company recommends that their biocidal curtains are changed after patients with known or suspected infectious agents, including MROs especially in the higher risk settings. Whist another company make no such recommendation. The cost of regular replacement will surely not be insubstantial in some settings, especially the more acute services. As mentioned, if the testing does not include a number of important pathogens then can it be reasonably assumed that the agents not tested for will be controlled or eliminated with the biocidal curtains in place?
It is accepted that the manufacturers clearly recommend that biocidal curtains should be changed if there is evidence of soiling. The question must be asked, though, who will validate this process? If curtains are left hanging for very prolonged periods (potentially substantially longer than standard cloth curtains), has the risk of this been established or even fully considered?
I am not suggesting that biocidal curtains represent a ‘less safe’ environment than cloth curtains; indeed this would appear patently untrue. I think, however, that a number of facilities and staff within them are seeing these curtains as the ‘holy-grail’ of a prevention/control measure. I would certainly suggest that there is a place for enhanced research and subsequent publication in peer reviewed literature to add to the body of current knowledge.
Just some thoughts!
Cheers
RachelRachel Thomson
Nurse Unit Manager
Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Royal Hobart Hospital
E: rachel.thomson@dhhs.tas.gov.auHi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au________________________________
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04/03/2014 at 5:01 pm #70903Verily ThomasParticipantAuthor:
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Hi All
I too have been following the trail and find it quite interesting the thoughts going around. It is not in its entirety based on how disposable curtains reduce or contain the spread of infection but also what other infection control preventative measures are put into place. From personal experience cloth curtains on their own have their own issues in regards to how they could possibly even though not proven but with a little bit of common sense the fact that when contaminated HCW’s hands are in contact with these and then start contaminating the patients environment yada yada yada.
Interestingly, just as much as we still get very little literature isolating the role of the environment vs. the contribution of the human element in cross contamination(Cdiff,VRE, norovirus survival and contamination rates) can we then justify because there is no scientific based evidence that there is no cross contamination? What I find a treasure with the disposable curtains is the following:
1. Reduction in energy costs due to ongoing laundering requirements(thinking green)
2. Reduction in water usage and waste generated from such procedures(thinking green)
3. Overtime there may be some cost savings based on the need to undertake such cost cutting measures(that all depend too on how often these(cloth) curtains are washed)
4. Less WHS issues in regards to injuries to our domestic staff.
5. Time saving so that cleaners/domestic staff can actually concentrate on more important things such as ….cleaning the environment.
6. Changing of curtains may be obvious however, the quality of cleaning especially when done under great pressure cannot be measured accept as we know it when we start having outbreaks which on most occasions are difficult to isolate how they originate.
However, like anything it is not the product that makes the difference but in essence the human element/ component that is vital to succeeding in reducing cross contamination such as good hand hygiene compliance and of course good environmental cleaning practices in combination with everything else. Nothing is ever successful working in isolation and no method is ever superior to the other if it is used in isolation.
Just saying with respect of course to other professionals views to issues with the environment. This is called the call of desperacy to either resort fully to our old time basics or otherwise utilise whatever technology we can find to assist our cause as it may not be a winning race for us in the technology advancement department. The battle with multi resistant organisms is never ending and so far I haven’t heard that we are winning with what we already have in place, might be wrong.
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HAND HYGIENE SAVES LIVESHi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au________________________________
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04/03/2014 at 5:04 pm #70907AnonymousInactiveAuthor:
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Excellent discussion points have been raised thank you. Although a material is labelled recyclable I would urge careful consideration around waste categories in your respective regions. If from an infectious patient, then I would question the ability for it to be recycled as it would usually be considered clinical waste.
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The disposable curtains we use in ICU and ED are recyclable category 5. If you want the brand details please contact me directly.Lynne Donnelly I Clinical Nurse Consultant
Armadale Health Service I Infection Prevention and Management
3056 Albany Highway, Armadale I PO Box 460 Armadale WA 6992I have been following the conversation in this thread and would like to raise an issue/question
My organisation is constantly looking at ways to reduce its environmental footprint.
We are a member of the Victorian Green Health Round Table Group, which provides a forum of information sharing for member organisations related to environmental concerns.
One key activity undertaken by this group is comparing waste volumes generated with the goal to reduce.
One of the major changes in providing health services since I began nursing (which was a good few years ago) is the increasing use of disposable items; from kimguard wraps, surgical drapes, suction tubing, endotracheal tubes, and surgical gloves…the list goes on.
Some of these are absolutely ‘no-brainers’ when it comes to rationale.
Disposable curtains are large and take up a lot of space in a bin, hence in landfill, prior to breaking down.
How do organisations who use disposable curtains weigh up this issue in contrast to the infection control risk related to privacy screens?Maree Sommerville
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Mercy Hospital for Women
Heidelberg
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Hi All,
Have a small issue – Disposable curtains/screens!
Would appreciate feedback from areas that are using the disposable curtain/screens in their facilities
The issue is around cost of linen vs disposable curtains/screens.
We have trialed & like what we have but those who watch the pennies are questioning their use.
Originally we brought them into our ED because the poor terminal cleaning staff were frantic with attending the cleaning ( which involves the replacement of curtains).
The NUM of ED was indicating at this particular incident -that there were three ambulances waiting to off load patients onto ED beds which were being held up by the terminal cleaning required.Amongst other actions taken regarding this issue in ED-was the implementation of the disposable curtains.
Now the question being asked is who else in other health areas has disposable curtains/screens & where are they ( ie high risk areas).
Much appreciate any assistance with this.
Thank you
Vicki Denyer
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Lismore Base Hospital
Tel 02 6620 2385 | vicki.denyer@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au[cid:image001.png@01CF37A4.8C44D840]
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