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    Anonymous
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    Hi all,
    We have a fantastic RN who is required to wear a pressure stocking on her arm due to lymphedema from breast cancer.
    We would love to assist her getting back to work but we have a question around hand hygiene?
    I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

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    #76343
    craig henderson
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    Hi Kristin
    This is a challenging topic, however if the staff member is unable to
    comply with bare below the elbows and attend hand hygiene they are unable
    to undertake clinical care.
    cheers
    Belinda

    Belinda Henderson RN BN IPN MAdvanced Prac CICP-E

    Clinical Nurse Consultant

    Infection Management Services – Infection Control

    Princess Alexandra Hospital

    Metro South Health Service |Queensland Health Level 1,Building 17, 199
    Ipswich Road WOOLLOONGABBA QLD 4102

    Email:
    BelindaC.Henderson@health.qld.gov.au
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    On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:13 PM Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD) wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > We have a fantastic RN who is required to wear a pressure stocking on her
    > arm due to lymphedema from breast cancer.
    >
    > We would love to assist her getting back to work but we have a question
    > around hand hygiene?
    >
    > I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Kristin
    >
    >
    >
    > *Kristin Ryan-Agnew*
    >
    > *Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)*
    >
    > *Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant*
    >
    > *The Tweed Hospital*
    >
    > *Ph: 0755067406*
    >
    > *Mobile: 0427112213*
    >
    >
    >
    > [image: cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] *National Standard 3 :
    > Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections*
    >
    >
    >
    > [image: Description: Description: Description: Description:
    > cid:image001.png@01CC899A.70FE88C0]
    >
    > I acknowledge the Bundjalung people as traditional owners of the land on
    > which I work and live.
    >
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    #76361
    Anonymous
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    Hi Kristin,
    Surely the workplace protocol for staff who do not have bare below elbows for religious reasons would be the same as for that staff member.
    The NHHI Manual describes the bare below the elbows as cultural with limited evidence.

    I did ring the Human Rights Commission about this some time ago.
    It is important to be mindful of discrimination on the basis of physical or religious grounds.

    But someone may have fantastic research in this area to share.
    regards
    Glenda Farmer
    Director
    Smartdentist Pty Ltd
    Accreditation solutions- intelligent content management

    > On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16 am, Bellis, Kaye wrote:
    >
    > HI Kristin, I agree with Belinda. Its a difficult time for her but if you cannot perform correct HH then you cannot be clinical.
    > regards Kaye
    >
    > Kaye Bellis
    >
    > Hand Hygiene Co-ordinator
    > Infection Prevention Consultant
    > Infection Prevention and Hospital Epidemiology Unit
    >
    > Tel: 03 9076 3139 or 9076 6550
    > Mob: 0417 636 179
    > Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday
    > e K.Bellis@alfred.org.au
    >
    > The Alfred
    > 55 Commercial Road
    > Melbourne VIC 3004
    > PO Box 315 Prahran
    > VIC 3181 Australia
    >
    > We acknowledge the people of the Kulin Nation, the traditional custodians and pay our respects to their culture and their Elders past, present and emerging.
    > We welcome all cultures, nationalities and religions. Being inclusive and providing equitable healthcare is our commitment.
    >
    > Alfred Health incorporates The Alfred, Caulfield Hospital, Sandringham Hospital and Melbourne Sexual Health Centre
    > http://www.alfred.org.au
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    > From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU > On Behalf Of craig henderson
    > Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 4:29 PM
    > To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    > Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking
    >
    > Hi Kristin
    > This is a challenging topic, however if the staff member is unable to comply with bare below the elbows and attend hand hygiene they are unable to undertake clinical care.
    > cheers
    > Belinda
    >
    > Belinda Henderson RN BN IPN MAdvanced Prac CICP-E
    > Clinical Nurse Consultant
    > Infection Management Services – Infection Control
    > Princess Alexandra Hospital
    >
    >
    > Metro South Health Service |Queensland Health Level 1,Building 17, 199 Ipswich Road WOOLLOONGABBA QLD 4102
    > Phone: 07 3176 5920 (ext: 5920)
    > Email: BelindaC.Henderson@health.qld.gov.au<mailto:BelindaC.Henderson@health.qld.gov.au >
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:13 PM Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD) <Kristin.RyanAgnew@health.nsw.gov.au > wrote:
    > Hi all,
    > We have a fantastic RN who is required to wear a pressure stocking on her arm due to lymphedema from breast cancer.
    > We would love to assist her getting back to work but we have a question around hand hygiene?
    > I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
    > Kind regards
    > Kristin
    >
    > Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    > Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    > Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    > The Tweed Hospital
    > Ph: 0755067406
    > Mobile: 0427112213
    >
    > National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections
    >
    > I acknowledge the Bundjalung people as traditional owners of the land on which I work and live.
    > ‘Bulla Yana Yabur’ Standing Together As One
    >
    >
    >
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    > Belinda Henderson
    > Past President
    > Australasian College for Infection Prevention and Control Ltd
    > GPO Box 3254, Brisbane Qld 4001
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    #76365
    HAVERS, Sally
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    Hi All,
    An important consideration is also the employers obligations from a workplace health and safety perspective i.e. to ensure the safety of the employee. (Of course it isnt just an obligation – I am sure we all want to keep everyone safe). There is a significant risk to any health care worker if they are not able to effectively perform hand hygiene whilst working in the clinical setting. To allow someone to work knowing that they cannot correctly and effectively perform hand hygiene would be knowingly putting someone at risk.
    Just an additional perspective.
    Kind regards,
    Sally

    Sally Havers
    RMD Program Manager

    [logo_austin]

    sally.havers@austin.org.au

    Infectious Diseases Department
    Level 7, Harold Stokes Building
    145 Studley Road, Heidelberg
    PO Box 5555, Victoria, 3084

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of SmartDentist
    Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:33 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi Kristin,
    Surely the workplace protocol for staff who do not have bare below elbows for religious reasons would be the same as for that staff member.
    The NHHI Manual describes the bare below the elbows as cultural with limited evidence.

    I did ring the Human Rights Commission about this some time ago.
    It is important to be mindful of discrimination on the basis of physical or religious grounds.

    But someone may have fantastic research in this area to share.
    regards
    Glenda Farmer
    Director
    Smartdentist Pty Ltd
    Accreditation solutions- intelligent content management

    On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16 am, Bellis, Kaye <K.Bellis@ALFRED.ORG.AU> wrote:

    HI Kristin, I agree with Belinda. Its a difficult time for her but if you cannot perform correct HH then you cannot be clinical.
    regards Kaye

    Kaye Bellis

    Hand Hygiene Co-ordinator
    Infection Prevention Consultant
    Infection Prevention and Hospital Epidemiology Unit

    Tel: 03 9076 3139 or 9076 6550
    Mob: 0417 636 179
    Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday
    e K.Bellis@alfred.org.au

    The Alfred
    55 Commercial Road
    Melbourne VIC 3004
    PO Box 315 Prahran
    VIC 3181 Australia
    [cid:image001.jpg@01D5EBC4.B318C500]
    We acknowledge the people of the Kulin Nation, the traditional custodians and pay our respects to their culture and their Elders past, present and emerging.
    We welcome all cultures, nationalities and religions. Being inclusive and providing equitable healthcare is our commitment.

    Alfred Health incorporates The Alfred, Caulfield Hospital, Sandringham Hospital and Melbourne Sexual Health Centre
    http://www.alfred.org.au

    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are to be used solely by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error, please be aware that any disclosure, copying or distribution of the information it contains; or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please notify us by return email that you have received the email and delete all copies in your system.

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of craig henderson
    Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 4:29 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi Kristin
    This is a challenging topic, however if the staff member is unable to comply with bare below the elbows and attend hand hygiene they are unable to undertake clinical care.
    cheers
    Belinda

    Belinda Henderson RN BN IPN MAdvanced Prac CICP-E
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Management Services – Infection Control
    Princess Alexandra Hospital

    Metro South Health Service |Queensland Health Level 1,Building 17, 199 Ipswich Road WOOLLOONGABBA QLD 4102
    Phone: 07 3176 5920 (ext: 5920)
    Email: BelindaC.Henderson@health.qld.gov.au<mailto:BelindaC.Henderson@health.qld.gov.au>
    [image.png]

    On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:13 PM Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD) <Kristin.RyanAgnew@health.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
    Hi all,
    We have a fantastic RN who is required to wear a pressure stocking on her arm due to lymphedema from breast cancer.
    We would love to assist her getting back to work but we have a question around hand hygiene?
    I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital
    Ph: 0755067406
    Mobile: 0427112213

    National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

    I acknowledge the Bundjalung people as traditional owners of the land on which I work and live.
    ‘Bulla Yana Yabur’ Standing Together As One

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    Australasian College for Infection Prevention and Control Ltd
    GPO Box 3254, Brisbane Qld 4001
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    #76369
    Matthew Mason
    Participant

    Author:
    Matthew Mason

    Email:
    mmason1@usc.edu.au

    Organisation:
    University of the Sunshine Coast

    State:
    QLD

    #76375
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Author:
    Anonymous

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    Hi All
    This is all very interesting and most worthy of discussion without prejudice. I have never had any issue or complaints when asking caregivers to adhere to BBE. I sought advice from a religious leader who advised that is a personal decision to adopt the dress code and not a religious requirement, others may have been advised differently. It is a very uncomfortable decision to have but one that was well received at the time. I think that safety of patients must always come first, the same as the reasoning behind the person wearing a pressure bandage in previous conversation.

    Lucille Ridley
    Group Infection Control Coordinator
    Patient Experience & Clinical Excellence l St John of God Healthcare
    T: (08) 6116 0566 | M: 0427704877 | F: (08) | E: Lucille.Ridley@sjog.org.au
    Thirlmere Road Mt Lawley WA 6050
    http://www.sjog.org.au/mtlawley | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook

    [Group Logo][Image result for international year of nurse and midwife”]

    We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
    We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and present.

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Matthew Mason
    Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2020 7:55 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi All,
    An interesting discussion. Some literature worth having a look at:

    Rigid infection prevention and control rules and religious discrimination: An uncomfortable juxtaposition?
    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1757177419884690

    This looks particularly at the religious side of bare below the elbows but a WH&S argument similarly could go either way.

    Cheers Matt

    Lecturer
    Program Co-ordinator: Nursing
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Paramedicine
    USC
    Ph +61 7 5456 5191
    mmason1@usc.edu.au

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of HAVERS, Sally
    Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2020 8:37 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi All,
    An important consideration is also the employers obligations from a workplace health and safety perspective i.e. to ensure the safety of the employee. (Of course it isnt just an obligation – I am sure we all want to keep everyone safe). There is a significant risk to any health care worker if they are not able to effectively perform hand hygiene whilst working in the clinical setting. To allow someone to work knowing that they cannot correctly and effectively perform hand hygiene would be knowingly putting someone at risk.
    Just an additional perspective.
    Kind regards,
    Sally

    Sally Havers
    RMD Program Manager

    [logo_austin]

    sally.havers@austin.org.au

    Infectious Diseases Department
    Level 7, Harold Stokes Building
    145 Studley Road, Heidelberg
    PO Box 5555, Victoria, 3084

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of SmartDentist
    Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2020 10:33 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi Kristin,
    Surely the workplace protocol for staff who do not have bare below elbows for religious reasons would be the same as for that staff member.
    The NHHI Manual describes the bare below the elbows as cultural with limited evidence.

    I did ring the Human Rights Commission about this some time ago.
    It is important to be mindful of discrimination on the basis of physical or religious grounds.

    But someone may have fantastic research in this area to share.
    regards
    Glenda Farmer
    Director
    Smartdentist Pty Ltd
    Accreditation solutions- intelligent content management

    On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16 am, Bellis, Kaye <K.Bellis@ALFRED.ORG.AU> wrote:

    HI Kristin, I agree with Belinda. Its a difficult time for her but if you cannot perform correct HH then you cannot be clinical.
    regards Kaye

    Kaye Bellis

    Hand Hygiene Co-ordinator
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of craig henderson
    Sent: Friday, 21 February 2020 4:29 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Compression Stocking

    Hi Kristin
    This is a challenging topic, however if the staff member is unable to comply with bare below the elbows and attend hand hygiene they are unable to undertake clinical care.
    cheers
    Belinda

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    On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:13 PM Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD) <Kristin.RyanAgnew@health.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
    Hi all,
    We have a fantastic RN who is required to wear a pressure stocking on her arm due to lymphedema from breast cancer.
    We would love to assist her getting back to work but we have a question around hand hygiene?
    I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

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