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    Lynne Howell
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    Hi all

    Does anyone know where or have any good posters on what constitutes “Clinical Waste”

    Regards,

    Lynne Howell
    Working Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursdays
    Infection Prevention Specialist| Queanbeyan Health Service
    Corner Collett and Erin Streets QUEANBEYAN 2620
    Tel. (02) 61507230 | Fax. | Mob. | Email. Lynne.Howell@health.nsw.gov.au
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    #75293
    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU Subject: Re: Clinical Waste In-Reply-To:
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    Yes Michael I thought I has indicated that i.e. if more onerous follow that
    and Vic EPA is more onerous atm. However for some states and territories the
    new standards are more onerous so now that AS has been released that takes
    over.

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au
    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

    mob. 0404 088 754
    fax. 03 9439 2436

    Wishart

    Thanks Margaret

    My meagre legal knowledge tells me that is a state has an Environmental
    Protection Act or equivalent with a definition of clinical waste, this will
    take precedence over an Australian Standard, until the Act is repealed or
    altered. Best advice would be to check with your state statutory authority.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

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    > On Behalf Of marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU

    Hi Michael – ASA 3816 brings states into line but if current state
    definition is more onerous than AS then go with state. Vic EPA will prob be
    reviewing theirs I understand

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au

    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

    mob. 0404 088 754
    fax. 03 9439 2436

    > On Behalf Of Michael Wishart

    Hi Lynne

    Definitely a state-by-state answer for this!

    Check out:
    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/clinicalwaste/Pages/default.aspx

    for definition.

    Cheers

    Michael

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    > On Behalf Of Lynne Howell

    Hi all

    Does anyone know where or have any good posters on what constitutes
    “Clinical Waste”

    Regards,

    Lynne Howell

    Working Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursdays
    Infection Prevention Specialist| Queanbeyan Health Service
    Corner Collett and Erin Streets QUEANBEYAN 2620
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    #75295
    Terry Grimmond
    Participant

    Author:
    Terry Grimmond

    Position:
    Director

    Organisation:
    Grimmond and Associates, Microbiology Consultants

    State:
    Waikato

    Hi Michael, you are correct, the recently updated and published Australian
    CW Standard AS 3816:2018 is voluntary, i.e. not legally binding unless it
    has been incorporated into a states legislation.

    The AS website at
    https://www.standards.org.au/standards-development/what-is-standard states:

    *On their own, standards are voluntary. There is no requirement for the
    public to comply with standards. However, State and Commonwealth
    governments often refer to Australian Standards (AS) or joint
    Australian/New Zealand Standards (AS/NZS) in their legislation.*
    *When this happens, these standards can become mandatory.*

    Best regards, Terry

    Terry Grimmond FASM, BAgrSc, GrDpAdEd

    Consultant Microbiologist

    Grimmond and Associates

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    Ph (NZ): +64 7 855 3212

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf
    Of *Michael
    Wishart
    *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:30 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Thanks Margaret

    My meagre legal knowledge tells me that is a state has an Environmental
    Protection Act or equivalent with a definition of clinical waste, this will
    take precedence over an Australian Standard, until the Act is repealed or
    altered. Best advice would be to check with your state statutory authority.

    Cheers

    Michael

    *Michael Wishart *| Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

    St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *
    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 3:22 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: Clinical Waste

    Hi Michael ASA 3816 brings states into line but if current state
    definition is more onerous than AS then go with state. Vic EPA will prob be
    reviewing theirs I understand

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au

    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

    mob. 0404 088 754
    fax. 03 9439 2436

    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf
    Of *Michael
    Wishart
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 2:58 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Hi Lynne

    Definitely a state-by-state answer for this!

    Check out:
    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/clinicalwaste/Pages/default.aspx

    for definition.

    Cheers

    Michael

    *Michael Wishart *| Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

    St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032

    *T *+61 7 3326 3068 |* F* +61 7 3607 2226

    *E* michael.wishart@svha.org.au |

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *Lynne
    Howell
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 11:44 AM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Clinical Waste

    Hi all

    Does anyone know where or have any good posters on what constitutes
    Clinical Waste

    Regards,

    *Lynne Howell*

    *Working Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursdays*
    Infection Prevention Specialist|
    *Queanbeyan Health Service*Corner Collett and Erin Streets QUEANBEYAN 2620
    Tel. (02) 61507230 | Fax. | Mob. | Email. Lynne.Howell@health.nsw.gov.au
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    #75303
    Terry Grimmond
    Participant

    Author:
    Terry Grimmond

    Position:
    Director

    Organisation:
    Grimmond and Associates, Microbiology Consultants

    State:
    Waikato

    Australian standards become mandatory when incorporated into state
    legislature, or when a Request For Tender (RFP) from an institution or
    state dept, or a state government guideline, requires that a product or
    protocol must adhere to ASXXXX.

    Kind regards, Terry

    Terry Grimmond FASM, BAgrSc, GrDpAdEd

    Consultant Microbiologist

    Grimmond and Associates

    Ph (NZ): +64 7 855 3212

    Mob (NZ): +64 274 365 140

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *
    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU
    *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2019 4:53 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Dear Terry many thanks for that clarification. Can you advise when this may
    occur? I note you say can become mandatory

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au
    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

    mob. 0404 088 754
    fax. 03 9439 2436

    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *Terry
    Grimmond
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 7:03 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Hi Michael, you are correct, the recently updated and published Australian
    CW Standard AS 3816:2018 is voluntary, i.e. not legally binding unless it
    has been incorporated into a states legislation.

    The AS website at
    https://www.standards.org.au/standards-development/what-is-standard states:

    *On their own, standards are voluntary. There is no requirement for the
    public to comply with standards. However, State and Commonwealth
    governments often refer to Australian Standards (AS) or joint
    Australian/New Zealand Standards (AS/NZS) in their legislation.*
    *When this happens, these standards can become mandatory.*

    Best regards, Terry

    Terry Grimmond FASM, BAgrSc, GrDpAdEd

    Consultant Microbiologist

    Grimmond and Associates

    [image: cid:image001.jpg@01D4E5A8.6B909190]

    Ph (NZ): +64 7 855 3212

    Mob (NZ): +64 274 365 140

    E: terry@terrygrimmond.com

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    W: http://terrygrimmond.com

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf
    Of *Michael
    Wishart
    *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:30 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Thanks Margaret

    My meagre legal knowledge tells me that is a state has an Environmental
    Protection Act or equivalent with a definition of clinical waste, this will
    take precedence over an Australian Standard, until the Act is repealed or
    altered. Best advice would be to check with your state statutory authority.

    Cheers

    Michael

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *
    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 3:22 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: Clinical Waste

    Hi Michael ASA 3816 brings states into line but if current state
    definition is more onerous than AS then go with state. Vic EPA will prob be
    reviewing theirs I understand

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

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    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

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    *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf
    Of *Michael
    Wishart
    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 2:58 PM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Clinical Waste

    Hi Lynne

    Definitely a state-by-state answer for this!

    Check out:
    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/clinicalwaste/Pages/default.aspx

    for definition.

    Cheers

    Michael

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    *Sent:* Thursday, 28 March 2019 11:44 AM
    *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    *Subject:* Clinical Waste

    Hi all

    Does anyone know where or have any good posters on what constitutes
    Clinical Waste

    Regards,

    *Lynne Howell*

    *Working Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursdays*
    Infection Prevention Specialist|
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    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU Subject: Re: Clinical Waste In-Reply-To:
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    Author:
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    Position:

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    Hi Terry just asking what is the usual time frame for adoption then?

    Regards,

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    Australian standards become mandatory when incorporated into state legislature, or when a Request For Tender (RFP) from an institution or state dept, or a state government guideline, requires that a product or protocol must adhere to ASXXXX.

    Kind regards, Terry

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    Dear Terry many thanks for that clarification. Can you advise when this may occur? I note you say can become mandatory

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    Hi Michael, you are correct, the recently updated and published Australian CW Standard AS 3816:2018 is voluntary, i.e. not legally binding unless it has been incorporated into a states legislation.

    The AS website at https://www.standards.org.au/standards-development/what-is-standard states:

    On their own, standards are voluntary. There is no requirement for the public to comply with standards. However, State and Commonwealth governments often refer to Australian Standards (AS) or joint Australian/New Zealand Standards (AS/NZS) in their legislation.
    When this happens, these standards can become mandatory.

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    Thanks Margaret

    My meagre legal knowledge tells me that is a state has an Environmental Protection Act or equivalent with a definition of clinical waste, this will take precedence over an Australian Standard, until the Act is repealed or altered. Best advice would be to check with your state statutory authority.

    Cheers

    Michael

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    Hi Michael ASA 3816 brings states into line but if current state definition is more onerous than AS then go with state. Vic EPA will prob be reviewing theirs I understand

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    Hi Lynne

    Definitely a state-by-state answer for this!

    Check out: https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/clinicalwaste/Pages/default.aspx for definition.

    Cheers

    Michael

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    Hi all

    Does anyone know where or have any good posters on what constitutes Clinical Waste

    Regards,

    Lynne Howell

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