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Hello everyone
I am seeking your thoughts on caring for patient who is for essential care
but due to mental health history would not allow any staff around in mask.
Protective eye wear is possible.Wondering if anyone had similar situation and what factors were considered
for risk assessment. Was WHS involved?kind regards
Jay kaur
Cnc IPC
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This is a difficult one that is for sure. I am wondering if it is due to not being able to look at the face and perhaps the masks used for speech therapy or by people lip reading may be of assistance for this situation.
Lucille Ridley | Group Infection Control Coordinator
St John of God Health Care
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Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 5:56 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Caring a patient without maskHello everyone
I am seeking your thoughts on caring for patient who is for essential care but due to mental health history would not allow any staff around in mask. Protective eye wear is possible.
Wondering if anyone had similar situation and what factors were considered for risk assessment. Was WHS involved?
kind regards
Jay kaur
Cnc IPC
Bolton Clarke
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Hi Jay
We have had patients with anxiety issues who have difficulty with staff wearing masks, and we have mainly managed these using full face shields that cover the mouth as well. These are suitable in low risk situations (eg patient not known to have COVID or any respiratory symptoms).
This would not be suitable for a high risk respiratory symptom patient, or for a high risk procedure (aerosol generating, if we can still use that term), where appropriate respiratory protection would be necessary for the staff. In that instance if you have PAPRs (systems that filter the air breathed in for the wearer) or the like that might be suitable, depending on the patient anxiety level and triggers (staff wearing a helmet might me more problematic for some of these patients, actually!).
Good luck finding solutions. We had some discussion about clear facemasks for use around these patients, but there were none with TGA approval for use in hospitals we could find at the time.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Jay Kaur
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 7:56 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Caring a patient without maskHello everyone
I am seeking your thoughts on caring for patient who is for essential care but due to mental health history would not allow any staff around in mask. Protective eye wear is possible.
Wondering if anyone had similar situation and what factors were considered for risk assessment. Was WHS involved?
kind regards
Jay kaur
Cnc IPC
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Thanks Lucille for this response.
I am now working with procurement to find the availability of such maks.
That would be great option.
Any other team members who might have used clear mask brand etc please
share information.kind regards
Jay kaur
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, 10:42 am Lucille Ridley (Kings Square), wrote:
> This is a difficult one that is for sure. I am wondering if it is due to
> not being able to look at the face and perhaps the masks used for speech
> therapy or by people lip reading may be of assistance for this situation.
>
>
>
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>
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> *Lucille Ridley | Group Infection Control Coordinator St John of God
> Health Care **T: *(08) 6116 0566 | *M: *0427704877 | *E: *
> Lucille.Ridley@sjog.org.au
> Level 1, 556 Wellington Street, Perth WA 6000 | PO Box 5753, St Georges
> Terrace Perth WA 6831
> http://www.sjog.org.au | Twitter | LinkedIn
> | Facebook
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>
>
>
> We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and
> recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
> We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and
> present.
>
>
>
> *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion *On Behalf Of *Jay
> Kaur
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 November 2021 5:56 AM
> *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
> *Subject:* [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Caring a patient without mask
>
>
>
> Hello everyone
>
>
>
> I am seeking your thoughts on caring for patient who is for essential care
> but due to mental health history would not allow any staff around in mask.
> Protective eye wear is possible.
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone had similar situation and what factors were considered
> for risk assessment. Was WHS involved?
>
>
>
> kind regards
>
> Jay kaur
>
> Cnc IPC
>
> Bolton Clarke
>
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Suggest using face shields?
Kind Regards
Rachel Menadue
General Practice Nurse
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PO Box 237
Clare SA 5453
‘ 8841 3777
6 8842 3295
http://www.claremedical.com.auFrom: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Lucille Ridley (Kings Square)
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 9:53 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Caring a patient without maskThis is a difficult one that is for sure. I am wondering if it is due to not being able to look at the face and perhaps the masks used for speech therapy or by people lip reading may be of assistance for this situation.
Lucille Ridley | Group Infection Control Coordinator
St John of God Health Care
T: (08) 6116 0566 | M: 0427704877 | E: Lucille.Ridley@sjog.org.au
Level 1, 556 Wellington Street, Perth WA 6000 | PO Box 5753, St Georges Terrace Perth WA 6831
http://www.sjog.org.au | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook[cid:image002.png@01D7DB83.F90D0DE0]
We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and present.From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Jay Kaur
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 5:56 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Caring a patient without maskHello everyone
I am seeking your thoughts on caring for patient who is for essential care but due to mental health history would not allow any staff around in mask. Protective eye wear is possible.
Wondering if anyone had similar situation and what factors were considered for risk assessment. Was WHS involved?
kind regards
Jay kaur
Cnc IPC
Bolton Clarke
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