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Hi would anyone have any information on the types of bins suitable for
discarding of PPE. I have looked at many infection control guides but none
mention types of bins.As a small facility with limited resources we have generally used bins with
a swing lid ( then the lids go missing!) though this way rubbish is easier
to discard! and we also have pedal operated bins but I find their life is
short in comparison to the cost!.Auditors from the Accreditation Agency have said best practice was the use
of pedal bin. Infection control officers who audited my facility from the
local health district told me bins with no lids was better but have not
been able to provide written evidence either. While doing the Foundations
course one of the film clips produced by the Tasmanian Government showed
PPE being discarded into a bin without a lid. Does that mean for training
its ok but in other situations it’s not??Looking forward to any replies.
| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
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Hi all
We experienced the exact same dilemma through multiple outbreaks, but finally settled on the no lid option during outbreaks. This allows for safe and effective disposal of PPE without having to touch and contaminate the lid. Pedal bins inevitably break fairly easily and the damaged lid becomes a source of contamination very quickly and for this reason we have moved away from them.
We used a variety of garden bins (large/sturdy/easy to clean) from Bunnings!
We were supported and advised by all agencies in Victoria (VACRC, PHU, ADF, Auzmat and Aspen Medical) to pursue this option.Kind regards,
Helen Finlay
National Manager Infection Control
t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.auLevel 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143
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Hi would anyone have any information on the types of bins suitable for discarding of PPE. I have looked at many infection control guides but none mention types of bins.
As a small facility with limited resources we have generally used bins with a swing lid ( then the lids go missing!) though this way rubbish is easier to discard! and we also have pedal operated bins but I find their life is short in comparison to the cost!.
Auditors from the Accreditation Agency have said best practice was the use of pedal bin. Infection control officers who audited my facility from the local health district told me bins with no lids was better but have not been able to provide written evidence either. While doing the Foundations course one of the film clips produced by the Tasmanian Government showed PPE being discarded into a bin without a lid. Does that mean for training its ok but in other situations it’s not??Looking forward to any replies.
[X]| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
| w. http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.auFollow us on: Facebook
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Hi Anna,
We have experienced the same. We have varying opinions by assessors as to what is required for the disposal of PPE. We have gone on the no lid option for inside the rooms as per Helen to avoid touching of the contaminated lid. We did use Pedal bins outside the room to limit accessibility by wandering residents. Would be great if there was some universal direction across the board.
Agree no lids is the way to go.Kind Regards
Kathleen Felstead
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Hi all
We experienced the exact same dilemma through multiple outbreaks, but finally settled on the no lid option during outbreaks. This allows for safe and effective disposal of PPE without having to touch and contaminate the lid. Pedal bins inevitably break fairly easily and the damaged lid becomes a source of contamination very quickly and for this reason we have moved away from them.
We used a variety of garden bins (large/sturdy/easy to clean) from Bunnings!
We were supported and advised by all agencies in Victoria (VACRC, PHU, ADF, Auzmat and Aspen Medical) to pursue this option.Kind regards,
Helen Finlay
National Manager Infection Control
t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.auLevel 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143
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Hi would anyone have any information on the types of bins suitable for discarding of PPE. I have looked at many infection control guides but none mention types of bins.
As a small facility with limited resources we have generally used bins with a swing lid ( then the lids go missing!) though this way rubbish is easier to discard! and we also have pedal operated bins but I find their life is short in comparison to the cost!.
Auditors from the Accreditation Agency have said best practice was the use of pedal bin. Infection control officers who audited my facility from the local health district told me bins with no lids was better but have not been able to provide written evidence either. While doing the Foundations course one of the film clips produced by the Tasmanian Government showed PPE being discarded into a bin without a lid. Does that mean for training its ok but in other situations it’s not??Looking forward to any replies.
| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
| w. http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.auFollow us on: Facebook
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Hi Anna
Certainly not recommending bins with lids (pedal bins, swing top bins) for the reason they break, become easily contaminated and extra cleaning is required.
Bins with no lids are easier for users to dispose of waste safely. If there is a concern regarding bins certain residents then you will need to do a risk assessment.We have suggested to ACFs across our district to contact your supplier (if you have one) or go down to a hardware store and buy a suitable size bin.
You will still need to use appropriate colour (eg: General or clinical) plastic bin liners.
If you are using these for PPE in an outbreak, you may want a larger 50 litre bin as these fill up quickly rather than a smaller waste tidy bin.
One ACF in our district have no lids on bins in staff / communal areas (size vary and appropriate for their location) but for residents in their rooms; it is their choice.There are references I have forward to you previously but except for the large mobile garbage bins and clinical sharp bins, I am not aware of a requirement that bins discussed above must have lids (or not).
Regards
Robert Robinson
Clinical Nurse Consultant, Nepean Blue Mountains LHD | Infection Prevention and Control
Nepean Hospital, PO Box 63, Penrith 2751
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Hi would anyone have any information on the types of bins suitable for discarding of PPE. I have looked at many infection control guides but none mention types of bins.
As a small facility with limited resources we have generally used bins with a swing lid ( then the lids go missing!) though this way rubbish is easier to discard! and we also have pedal operated bins but I find their life is short in comparison to the cost!.
Auditors from the Accreditation Agency have said best practice was the use of pedal bin. Infection control officers who audited my facility from the local health district told me bins with no lids was better but have not been able to provide written evidence either. While doing the Foundations course one of the film clips produced by the Tasmanian Government showed PPE being discarded into a bin without a lid. Does that mean for training its ok but in other situations it’s not??Looking forward to any replies.
[X]| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
| w. http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.auFollow us on: Facebook
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Thankyou Helen,
I don’t understand why Accreditation auditors are going on about pedal bins
then??| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
| w.
http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.auFollow us on: Facebook
From all of the Staff here at Fitzgerald Aged Care, we wish you a Merry
Christmas and a Happy New Year!Helen Finlay
Hi all
We experienced the exact same dilemma through multiple outbreaks, but
finally settled on the no lid option during outbreaks. This allows for safe
and effective disposal of PPE without having to touch and contaminate the
lid. Pedal bins inevitably break fairly easily and the damaged lid becomes a
source of contamination very quickly and for this reason we have moved away
from them.We used a variety of garden bins (large/sturdy/easy to clean) from Bunnings!
We were supported and advised by all agencies in Victoria (VACRC, PHU, ADF,
Auzmat and Aspen Medical) to pursue this option.Kind regards,
Helen Finlay
National Manager Infection Control
t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w
http://www.regis.com.auLevel 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143
Manager (Fitzgerald Aged Care Facility)
Hi would anyone have any information on the types of bins suitable for
discarding of PPE. I have looked at many infection control guides but none
mention types of bins.As a small facility with limited resources we have generally used bins with
a swing lid ( then the lids go missing!) though this way rubbish is easier
to discard! and we also have pedal operated bins but I find their life is
short in comparison to the cost!.Auditors from the Accreditation Agency have said best practice was the use
of pedal bin. Infection control officers who audited my facility from the
local health district told me bins with no lids was better but have not
been able to provide written evidence either. While doing the Foundations
course one of the film clips produced by the Tasmanian Government showed
PPE being discarded into a bin without a lid. Does that mean for training
its ok but in other situations it’s not??Looking forward to any replies.
| Anna Whitney RN | Executive Manager
| t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627
| 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756
| w.
http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.au
Follow us on: Facebook
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