Bare the elbows

[Anonymous]

HI there
Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
Regards

Cate Coffey
RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
Clinical Nurse Manager

Central Australia Health Service
Department of Health
Northern Territory Government

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[Anonymous]

Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene otherwise?

Kind regards,
Kelly
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HI there
Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
Regards

Cate Coffey
RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
Clinical Nurse Manager

Central Australia Health Service
Department of Health
Northern Territory Government

Infection Prevention and Control Unit
Alice Springs Hospital
PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871
cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

t. 08 8951 7737
http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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[Glenys Harrington]

Hi All,

Let’s not get too carried away with policies/guidelines that recommend “bare
to the elbows” as the premise that bare forearms will increase the rate and
effectiveness of hand washing is yet to be proved.

See comments/extracts at links below:

In order to reach firm conclusions about the effectiveness of the BBE
policy, it is therefore essential that any clinical results are interpreted
in the context of the current literature and that bias and confounding are
minimised during study design.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293336/

The potential impact of hand hygiene on comparative bioburden between
sleeved and BBE HCWs remains unknown and is the focus of future
investigations.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293263/

Bare below the elbows’ attire is not related to the degree of contamination
on doctors’ fingertips or the presence of clinically significant pathogens.
Further studies are required to establish whether investment in doctors’
uniforms and patient education campaigns are worthwhile.

https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(09)00557-X/ful
ltext

This thread also begs the question why such audits would be being planned
and undertaken during a surge in the COVID-19 Pandemic?

Given the lack of evidence, this is a poor use of limited infection control
resources.

Regards

Glenys

Glenys Harrington

Consultant

Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

P.O. Box 6385

Melbourne

Australia, 3004

M: +61 404816434

E: infexion@ozemail.com.au

Barton

Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene
otherwise?

Kind regards,

Kelly

I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live,
and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to
Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

Kelly Barton

Infection Prevention & Control Officer

RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse
Immuniser. Cert IV T&A

kelly.barton@alpinehealth.org.au

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> On Behalf Of Cate Coffey

HI there

Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the
Elbow audits?

Regards

Cate Coffey

RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing

Clinical Nurse Manager

Central Australia Health Service

Department of Health

Northern Territory Government

Infection Prevention and Control Unit

Alice Springs Hospital
PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871

cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

t. 08 8951 7737

http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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[robertsh@sath.org.au]

Hi,

Yes I do as our wad clerks deliver the patients to there rooms and have dealing with patients.

Regards
Helen

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Yes! All staff that go onto the wards. How can they do proper hand hygiene otherwise?

Kind regards,
Kelly
I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present. [cid:image004.png@01D3E2D8.4A07E100]

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Kelly Barton
Infection Prevention & Control Officer
RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse Immuniser. Cert IV T&A
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HI there
Do you include ward clerk healthcare worker group in your Bare Below the Elbow audits?
Regards

Cate Coffey
RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
Clinical Nurse Manager

Central Australia Health Service
Department of Health
Northern Territory Government

Infection Prevention and Control Unit
Alice Springs Hospital
PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871
cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

t. 08 8951 7737
http://www.health.nt.gov.au

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