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14/08/2015 at 9:04 am #72394Michelle KennedyParticipant
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Morning All, I recently found our PICC team no longer use antiseptic hand wash pre PICC insertion and use neutral soap. Can anyone tell me where to find evidence of using antiseptic hand wash prior to invasive procedures?
Thank you
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14/08/2015 at 9:53 am #72395Helen NewmanParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Michelle,
NSW Health PD 2010_58 Hand Hygiene outlines the necessity to use AHR or antiseptic hand wash prior to insertion of invasive devices. See appendix 1Regards
Helen
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Morning All, I recently found our PICC team no longer use antiseptic hand wash pre PICC insertion and use neutral soap. Can anyone tell me where to find evidence of using antiseptic hand wash prior to invasive procedures?
Thank you
Michelle KennedyCNC | Infection Prevention Service
John Hunter Hospital Campus
Lookout rd, New Lambton
Tel 02 4921 3129 | michelle.kennedy@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au
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14/08/2015 at 10:31 am #72397Catherine MacknightParticipantAuthor:
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Also have a look in Central Venous Access Device insertion etc etc PD 2011-060 Appendix 1 point 12
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Subject: Re: Antiseptic Hand WashHi Michelle,
NSW Health PD 2010_58 Hand Hygiene outlines the necessity to use AHR or antiseptic hand wash prior to insertion of invasive devices. See appendix 1Regards
Helen
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michelle E. Kennedy
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Subject: Antiseptic Hand WashMorning All, I recently found our PICC team no longer use antiseptic hand wash pre PICC insertion and use neutral soap. Can anyone tell me where to find evidence of using antiseptic hand wash prior to invasive procedures?
Thank you
Michelle KennedyCNC | Infection Prevention Service
John Hunter Hospital Campus
Lookout rd, New Lambton
Tel 02 4921 3129 | michelle.kennedy@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au
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14/08/2015 at 11:04 am #72398Hi Michelle,
Have you asked them for what reasons they have changed their current
practice?Maybe they can supply you with the evidence they used to stop using
antiseptic hand wash.This is currently NOT the recommendations of both a number of Australian and
international guidelines and recommendations.Currently CDC, SHEA, APIC, EPIC, ACI, INS , CNSA and NSW MoH CVAD guidelines
support the use of antiseptic handwashing in all aspects of vascular access.Tim..
Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert, VA-BC.
Independent Vascular Access Consultant
Conjoint Lecturer, South West Sydney Clinical School | Faculty of Medicine |
University of NSWDirector-at-Large, Vascular Access Certification Corporation (VACC)
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E: tim.spencer68@icloud.com“Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where
excellence is expected.” – Steve JobsOf Michelle E. Kennedy
Morning All, I recently found our PICC team no longer use antiseptic hand
wash pre PICC insertion and use neutral soap. Can anyone tell me where to
find evidence of using antiseptic hand wash prior to invasive procedures?Thank you
Michelle Kennedy
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John Hunter Hospital Campus
Lookout rd, New Lambton
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14/08/2015 at 11:15 am #72399Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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Interestingly, the US HICPAC BSI guidelines has this:
Hand Hygiene and Aseptic Technique
1. Perform hand hygiene procedures, either by washing hands with conventional soap and water or with alcohol-based hand rubs (ABHR). Hand hygiene should be performed before and after palpating catheter insertion sites as well as before and after inserting, replacing, accessing, repairing, or dressing an intravascular catheter. Palpation of the insertion site should not be performed after the application of antiseptic, unless aseptic technique is maintained [12, 77-79]. Category IB
This recommendation seems to be generic for all intravascular devices from what I can see. No specific recommendation for hand cleaning with an antiseptic solution prior to CVC insertion.
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P Please consider the environment before printing this emailHi Michelle,
Have you asked them for what reasons they have changed their current practice?
Maybe they can supply you with the evidence they used to stop using antiseptic hand wash.
This is currently NOT the recommendations of both a number of Australian and international guidelines and recommendations.
Currently CDC, SHEA, APIC, EPIC, ACI, INS , CNSA and NSW MoH CVAD guidelines support the use of antiseptic handwashing in all aspects of vascular access.
Tim..Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert, VA-BC.
Independent Vascular Access Consultant
Conjoint Lecturer, South West Sydney Clinical School | Faculty of Medicine | University of NSW
Director-at-Large, Vascular Access Certification Corporation (VACC)
M: +1 (623) 326 8889 (USA)
M: +61 (0)409 463 428 (AU)
E: tim.spencer68@icloud.com
“Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected.” – Steve JobsMorning All, I recently found our PICC team no longer use antiseptic hand wash pre PICC insertion and use neutral soap. Can anyone tell me where to find evidence of using antiseptic hand wash prior to invasive procedures?
Thank you
Michelle KennedyCNC | Infection Prevention Service
John Hunter Hospital Campus
Lookout rd, New Lambton
Tel 02 4921 3129 | michelle.kennedy@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au
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