Antibacterial spray for theatre shoes

[sara.godden@healthscope.com.au]

Good Morning all,
Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for any thoughts on this matter
Regards
Sara
Sara Godden
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Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse
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[Terry Grimmond]

Hi Sara,
I’ve not noted this as an issue for infection transfer. If surgeons wear overshoes, and remove them prior to going to toilet, I can’t see an infection issue. Or am I missing a potential issue?
Regards, Terry
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Good Morning all,

Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter

Regards

Sara

Sara Godden
Infection Control Coordinator – CICP
Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse
Brisbane Private hospital
259 Wickham Terrace
Brisbane QLD 4000
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[Michael Wishart]

Hi Sara

Um… how should I put this… why would the surgeons be worried about what is on their shoes after going to the bathroom? Makes me wonder what they are doing in there….

I would be much, much more worried about what was on their hands!

As far as I am aware, there is little if any evidence to say shoes are a factor in surgical site infections, apart from potentially touching shoes then not performing hand hygiene. That is why disposable shoe covers have a bad reputation.

Spraying shoes with antiseptics would seem, to me, to be seeking to prevent something which is not considered a problem. I would be more inclined to respond to the surgeons and request that they consider hand hygiene as a much, much higher priority. Maybe even, tongue-in-cheek, suggesting an all-over antiseptic spray booth for them before re-entering the operating room would be more beneficial? 🙂

Cheers
Michael

Michael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
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Good Morning all,

Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter

Regards

Sara

Sara Godden
Infection Control Coordinator – CICP
Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse
Brisbane Private hospital
259 Wickham Terrace
Brisbane QLD 4000
Sara.Godden@healthscope.com.au

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[Jayne OConnor]

Hi Sara,
Not sure I’ve heard of this being an issue, but would recommend the use of over shoes & good old fashioned hand hygiene after they have removed overshoes.
Kind regards
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor, RN, BSc. Infection Control

CNC- IPC

Sydney Adventist Hospital

185 Fox Valley Rd

Wahroonga

NSW 2076

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ayne

Good Morning all,

Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter

Regards

Sara

Sara Godden
Infection Control Coordinator – CICP
Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse
Brisbane Private hospital
259 Wickham Terrace
Brisbane QLD 4000
Sara.Godden@healthscope.com.au

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[Anonymous]

Hi everyone,

I wholeheartedly support Michael’s earlier comment and believe this is a
total non-issue.

Overshoes create more problems with potential risks of contamination of
hands through poor hand hygiene compliance after putting these on or
removing them. In addition the ACORN Standards recommends against the use of
overshoes for this reason and also note that increased floor bacterial
counts are associated with the use of overshoes.

Sara, I would ask the surgeons why exactly they are thinking they need to
spray their shoes and what products have they seen that are intended for
this purpose.

Many years of experience lead me to think that perhaps there has been some
creative marketing of a product at a conference or in a journal recently and
this may have prompted the surgeon’s to ask about it.

Regards

Terry McAuley

Sterilisation & Infection Prevention and Control Consultant

STEAM Consulting

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Endeavour Hills

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Of Jayne OConnor

Hi Sara,

Not sure I’ve heard of this being an issue, but would recommend the use of
over shoes & good old fashioned hand hygiene after they have removed
overshoes.

Kind regards

Jayne

Jayne O’Connor, RN, BSc. Infection Control

CNC- IPC

Sydney Adventist Hospital

185 Fox Valley Rd

Wahroonga

NSW 2076

Jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au

ayne

Of Sara Godden

Good Morning all,

Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray
their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the
theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so
I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions
on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter

Regards

Sara

Sara Godden

Infection Control Coordinator – CICP

Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse

Brisbane Private hospital

259 Wickham Terrace

Brisbane QLD 4000

Sara.Godden@healthscope.com.au

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[Terry Grimmond]

Hi all, My Oops – I meant to say remove OR shoes (as toilet appears to be outside OR). Having said that, I agree with Michael and TerryM – footwear is v. low on IC risk. No need to “spray”.
Terry Grimmond FASM, BAgrSc, GrDpAdEd
Consultant Microbiologist
Grimmond and Associates
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Hi Sara,
I’ve not noted this as an issue for infection transfer. If surgeons wear overshoes, and remove them prior to going to toilet, I can’t see an infection issue. Or am I missing a potential issue?
Regards, Terry
Terry Grimmond FASM, BAgrSc, GrDpAdEd
Consultant Microbiologist
Grimmond and Associates
Ph/Fx (NZ): +64 7 856 4042
Mob (NZ): +64 274 365 140
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Good Morning all,

Some of the surgeons have suggested that it would be a good idea to spray their shoes after going to the bathroom etc. prior to re-entering the theatre. Therefore the theatre Manager has asked me what could be used, so I am asking if any of you follow this practice at all and if so suggestions on brands via private email would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter

Regards

Sara

Sara Godden
Infection Control Coordinator – CICP
Acting Stomal Therapy Nurse
Brisbane Private hospital
259 Wickham Terrace
Brisbane QLD 4000
Sara.Godden@healthscope.com.au

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