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    Dalrymple, Ruth
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    Dear All,

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me any extra precautions
    necessary, when operating on a patient with vaginal and anal warts.
    There was apparently a claim that when the warts are diathermied off, it
    would cause the virus to become airborne? I was asked to check up on it.
    Is there any truth in this statement?

    Regards

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital

    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
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    #69693
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Ruth

    I think this is referring to ‘laser plume’ as a mechanism for transmission of papillomavirus. Electrocautery is also a risk, but less well identified.

    The main risk minimisation for these types of procedures is to use well-fitting masks, and use a local exhaust suction system to minimise aerosol dispersal. I am sure there are many guidelines to this effect available. Obviously using different treatments for these warts where this is an option should also be considered.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
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    Dear All,
    I was wondering if anyone could tell me any extra precautions necessary, when operating on a patient with vaginal and anal warts. There was apparently a claim that when the warts are diathermied off, it would cause the virus to become airborne? I was asked to check up on it. Is there any truth in this statement?
    Regards

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital
    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au W
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    #69694
    Sony SO
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    Hi Ruth,

    I noted AORN has addressed your concerns caused by diathermy, the hazards should related to surgical smoke and bio-aerosols, visit ARON website for details https://www.aorn.org/Secondary.aspx?id22018&termssmoke

    Regards,

    Sony SO
    Nursing Officer, Infection Control Team
    Kwong Wah Hospital
    HONG KONG SAR, CHINA
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    Dear All,
    I was wondering if anyone could tell me any extra precautions necessary, when operating on a patient with vaginal and anal warts. There was apparently a claim that when the warts are diathermied off, it would cause the virus to become airborne? I was asked to check up on it. Is there any truth in this statement?
    Regards

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital
    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au W
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    #69695
    Infectioncontrol, HVL
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    Dear Michael,

    I guess that raises another question. What is the best surgical mask in
    Australia to use in OT that would be appropriately called a High
    filtration surgical masks?

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital

    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au
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    Behalf Of Michael Wishart

    Hi Ruth

    I think this is referring to ‘laser plume’ as a mechanism for
    transmission of papillomavirus. Electrocautery is also a risk, but less
    well identified.

    The main risk minimisation for these types of procedures is to use
    well-fitting masks, and use a local exhaust suction system to minimise
    aerosol dispersal. I am sure there are many guidelines to this effect
    available. Obviously using different treatments for these warts where
    this is an option should also be considered.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Michael Wishart

    CNC Infection Control

    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital

    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032

    t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226

    e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au

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    Behalf Of Dalrymple, Ruth

    Dear All,

    I was wondering if anyone could tell me any extra precautions
    necessary, when operating on a patient with vaginal and anal warts.
    There was apparently a claim that when the warts are diathermied off, it
    would cause the virus to become airborne? I was asked to check up on it.
    Is there any truth in this statement?

    Regards

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital

    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au
    W

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    #69697
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Ruth

    That is a good question, with a difficult answer! In Australia, high filtration masks are considered P2 masks, which is similar to the N95 standard in the US, (not the same though). In the US, they also sell “laser plume” masks”, which are not considered N95 masks, but are designed to protect from “laser plume”.

    My opinion is that if you have very good local exhaust extraction for surgical cutting that may create aerosols (“surgical smoke”), then the type of masks is not as important. Many theatres even in Australia use “laser plume masks” for surgical cutting specifically with lasers, but not with all Electrocautery.

    There is no real simple answer as to which is the “best” mask for this purpose, as the risks are still not fully identified. Ask the mask manufacturers what their recommendations are for their masks, and what evidence they have to support this.

    Hopefully others on the list may have more advice on this.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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    Dear Michael,
    I guess that raises another question. What is the best surgical mask in Australia to use in OT that would be appropriately called a High filtration surgical masks?

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital
    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au W

    Hi Ruth

    I think this is referring to ‘laser plume’ as a mechanism for transmission of papillomavirus. Electrocautery is also a risk, but less well identified.

    The main risk minimisation for these types of procedures is to use well-fitting masks, and use a local exhaust suction system to minimise aerosol dispersal. I am sure there are many guidelines to this effect available. Obviously using different treatments for these warts where this is an option should also be considered.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
    t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
    e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
    w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
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    Dear All,
    I was wondering if anyone could tell me any extra precautions necessary, when operating on a patient with vaginal and anal warts. There was apparently a claim that when the warts are diathermied off, it would cause the virus to become airborne? I was asked to check up on it. Is there any truth in this statement?
    Regards

    Ruth Dalrymple
    Quality Risk/Infection Control Co-Ordinator
    Hurstville Private Hospital
    37 Gloucester Road, Hurstville NSW 2220, Australia
    T 9579 7773 F 9586 2311
    E Ruth.Dalrymple@healthecare.com.au W
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