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Dear Brains trust,
Could you please advise as to how you monitor temperatures on your bed pan and bowl washers, do you keep a record and how is this monitored, or do you use macerators? If you use macerators in your facility have any you had any major problems with them, do you like or not.
Many thanks in advance
Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
IPC Co-Ordinator
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H Jayne
We have a mix of macerators and pan sanitisers here. Our pan sanitisers have a built in temp recording log with no print out or visible temp, but the system will ‘fault’ if temp is not reached. The end user can’t see the temp, but we get a print out each quarter from the people who do the maintenance. Not ideal, but it works, and keeps the surveyors happy (so far!).
We have had macerators now for a few years, and the only issues we have had have been related to what goes in them (disposable gloves seem to be the most frequent offender). Continued education seems to be the best solution (signage is useless!!).
Hope this helps
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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[2019 conference email signature]Dear Brains trust,
Could you please advise as to how you monitor temperatures on your bed pan and bowl washers, do you keep a record and how is this monitored, or do you use macerators? If you use macerators in your facility have any you had any major problems with them, do you like or not.
Many thanks in advance
Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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Hello Jayne
Our LHD have purchased and installed an electronic water based washer disinfector system that records and monitors the temperature of items placed inside the pan/ bowl washer disinfector each cycle .
You can visualise the cycle readout as it progresses …as they are pre set cycle selections we set up … If it fails to reach the cycle requirements then it will not pass the cycle (not sure anyone on the wards etc reads this or is interested like me ….. they just put the equipment in and close it up and press the button…it will not open if the cycle has failed without a resetting……& then they complain its is broken if they dont understand why it needs to be reset ….)All these machines are connected to our BMS & so are also monitored remotely by our maintenance department and has set ranges to alarm & notify of any failures that need rectification.
We can run quality control reports anytime we need one as it is continuous remote monitoring program (we have 7 sites where these are installed currently and mostly linked via IT/ Wi-Fi to the large 2 facilities works…but I believe there may still be some issues with the wifi at our smaller sites back to the larger sites due to IT & the intelligence of the system we purchased ……. so not perfect yet but working on it!! …one day!?)…you have reminded me I must review the trends and see how we have progressed with the Wi-Fi issues !!The district have also as part of the transition purchased a preventative maintenance program for all sites as well where the machines are services and validated at least annually (? Maybe quarterly …I cant recall) but I have seen the last reports & no major problems with processes at this tie…just need more staff education !! 🙂
Maceraters ….mmm I had believed that a number of years ago Sydney water had recommend against using macerator machines for large sewerage services such as health due to the risk to the waterways and blockage build up/ risk…given what we try to throw down them I am not surprised at all….. & the age and tenderness of Sydney water infrastructure etc . I don’t think it was in all states that this was an issue I think it was Ok in WA & looks Like QLD from Michaels response….. but I did recall reading something about Sydney when I looked at it a few years back…you may need to check with them again to be sure.
Hope this feedback useful
Kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance & Information Services MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Office 66911984 or Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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(Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)Dear Brains trust,
Could you please advise as to how you monitor temperatures on your bed pan and bowl washers, do you keep a record and how is this monitored, or do you use macerators? If you use macerators in your facility have any you had any major problems with them, do you like or not.
Many thanks in advance
Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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Thanks Lindy, very helpful,Im investigating both systems at the moment and also hoping our newer sanitisers could be retrofitted with some sort of soft wear so we can monitor for compliance.
Last I heard from Sydney water they were now able to cops with the demand of the pulp produced by the macerated but yes we d need to be careful/ aware of what is being put in them ahhhh.
Many thanks
JayneSent from my iPhone
On 11 Feb 2019, at 6:50 pm, Lindy Ryan (Mid North Coast LHD) <Lindy.Ryan@health.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
Hello Jayne
Our LHD have purchased and installed an electronic water based washer disinfector system that records and monitors the temperature of items placed inside the pan/ bowl washer disinfector each cycle .
You can visualise the cycle readout as it progresses as they are pre set cycle selections we set up If it fails to reach the cycle requirements then it will not pass the cycle (not sure anyone on the wards etc reads this or is interested like me .. they just put the equipment in and close it up and press the buttonit will not open if the cycle has failed without a resetting& then they complain its is broken if they dont understand why it needs to be reset .)All these machines are connected to our BMS & so are also monitored remotely by our maintenance department and has set ranges to alarm & notify of any failures that need rectification.
We can run quality control reports anytime we need one as it is continuous remote monitoring program (we have 7 sites where these are installed currently and mostly linked via IT/ Wi-Fi to the large 2 facilities worksbut I believe there may still be some issues with the wifi at our smaller sites back to the larger sites due to IT & the intelligence of the system we purchased . so not perfect yet but working on it!! one day!?)you have reminded me I must review the trends and see how we have progressed with the Wi-Fi issues !!The district have also as part of the transition purchased a preventative maintenance program for all sites as well where the machines are services and validated at least annually (? Maybe quarterly I cant recall) but I have seen the last reports & no major problems with processes at this tiejust need more staff education !! 🙂
Maceraters .mmm I had believed that a number of years ago Sydney water had recommend against using macerator machines for large sewerage services such as health due to the risk to the waterways and blockage build up/ riskgiven what we try to throw down them I am not surprised at all.. & the age and tenderness of Sydney water infrastructure etc . I dont think it was in all states that this was an issue I think it was Ok in WA & looks Like QLD from Michaels response.. but I did recall reading something about Sydney when I looked at it a few years backyou may need to check with them again to be sure.
Hope this feedback useful
Kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance & Information Services MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Office 66911984 or Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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Wise and humane management of the patient is the best safeguard against infection
(Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)Dear Brains trust,
Could you please advise as to how you monitor temperatures on your bed pan and bowl washers, do you keep a record and how is this monitored, or do you use macerators? If you use macerators in your facility have any you had any major problems with them, do you like or not.
Many thanks in advance
Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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