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    Cath Murphy
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    Greetings all

    One year since their implementation I am wondering how most IPs are coping with the Commission’s national safety and quality standards and in particular Standard 3. As some of you may know I was personally involved in some of their development through membership on two of the Commission’s committees. Yesterday I enquired of the Commission about any publically available information on how the Standards implementation is progressing but they are unable to report anything. To my knowledge there are no papers in peer-reviewed journals either. The Commission’s timeframe for review as stated on their website is 2015.

    I am especially keen to hear in IP-speak 1) the challenges, rewards and obstacles that IPs may have faced as a result of Standard 3. 2)How “usual” ways of work may have changed and 3) any assistance that would make the task of implementing them easier.

    In their Annual Report and at ACIPC 2012 Conference in Sydney the Commission referred to HH compliance, C Diff rates and SAB rates as the markers they will use to assess Stdnard 3’s impact. I’m more interested in the impact on programs or the IP role. Please feel free to share your experiences good, bad or indifferent through discussion here or email me personally.

    And many thanks for those of you who discussed publically or as a sidebar, the issue of single-use pt care equipment – your insights were very illuminating.

    Thanks and warm regards
    Cath

    Dr Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD CIC
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    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd

    Adjunct Professor
    Griffith University, School of Nursing and Midwifery
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    #70723
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Cath

    We were accredited via the new Standards by ACHS late last year, and I think the process of having to demonstrate minimum requirements is good. Most of Standard 3 involves things we have been doing for a while (or should have been doing) in infection control, and most of meeting Standard 3 is just closing the loop with documentation and evaluation of what we do. So mostly good – to have all facilities measured against these Standards can only lead to improved patient outcomes, in my opinion.

    My biggest gripe is AMS – AMS is an important infection prevention issue, don’t get me wrong, but ICP’s don’t prescribe antibiotics. In a facility with a standalone ICP (ie not part of a team with ID Physicians and clinical microbiologists) getting medical staff (who, in the private sector, are not even part of the workforce, really) to prescribe according to guidelines is a target way out of reach. Sure, we can audit and put up posters and stuff, but the responsibility for this part of Standard 3 should NOT be upon the facility, in my view, but put back on the medical staff, at least in the private sector. That’s my main gripe within Standard 3.

    Just some thoughts.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
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    Greetings all

    One year since their implementation I am wondering how most IPs are coping with the Commission’s national safety and quality standards and in particular Standard 3. As some of you may know I was personally involved in some of their development through membership on two of the Commission’s committees. Yesterday I enquired of the Commission about any publically available information on how the Standards implementation is progressing but they are unable to report anything. To my knowledge there are no papers in peer-reviewed journals either. The Commission’s timeframe for review as stated on their website is 2015.

    I am especially keen to hear in IP-speak 1) the challenges, rewards and obstacles that IPs may have faced as a result of Standard 3. 2)How “usual” ways of work may have changed and 3) any assistance that would make the task of implementing them easier.

    In their Annual Report and at ACIPC 2012 Conference in Sydney the Commission referred to HH compliance, C Diff rates and SAB rates as the markers they will use to assess Stdnard 3’s impact. I’m more interested in the impact on programs or the IP role. Please feel free to share your experiences good, bad or indifferent through discussion here or email me personally.

    And many thanks for those of you who discussed publically or as a sidebar, the issue of single-use pt care equipment – your insights were very illuminating.

    Thanks and warm regards
    Cath

    Dr Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD CIC
    Executive Director
    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd

    Adjunct Professor
    Griffith University, School of Nursing and Midwifery
    http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au
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    #70730
    Jennifer McCarthy
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    Hi Cath
    We are a small stand alone private facilty (47 acute beds) and have just
    gone through the accreditation process (all 10 Standards and just having
    changed over to ISO – great fun!!)
    and I agree with Micheal – I have found the AMS component very hard to
    demonstrate. While the guide for smaller facilities was very helpful I
    felt there was no where to go when there was non compliance with the
    antibiotic guidelines (just have to continue to report it at the
    relevant commitees).
    Having said that the one area we did not get compliance in was 3.19!
    regards
    Jenny

    Jenny McCarthy

    OR Manager/Infection Prevention and Control Coordinator

    Maryvale Private Hospital

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    Behalf Of Michael Wishart

    Hi Cath

    We were accredited via the new Standards by ACHS late last year, and I
    think the process of having to demonstrate minimum requirements is good.
    Most of Standard 3 involves things we have been doing for a while (or
    should have been doing) in infection control, and most of meeting
    Standard 3 is just closing the loop with documentation and evaluation
    of what we do. So mostly good – to have all facilities measured against
    these Standards can only lead to improved patient outcomes, in my
    opinion.

    My biggest gripe is AMS – AMS is an important infection prevention
    issue, don’t get me wrong, but ICP’s don’t prescribe antibiotics. In a
    facility with a standalone ICP (ie not part of a team with ID Physicians
    and clinical microbiologists) getting medical staff (who, in the private
    sector, are not even part of the workforce, really) to prescribe
    according to guidelines is a target way out of reach. Sure, we can audit
    and put up posters and stuff, but the responsibility for this part of
    Standard 3 should NOT be upon the facility, in my view, but put back on
    the medical staff, at least in the private sector. That’s my main gripe
    within Standard 3.

    Just some thoughts.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Michael Wishart

    Infection Control Coordinator

    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital

    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032

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    Behalf Of Cath Murphy

    Greetings all

    One year since their implementation I am wondering how most IPs are
    coping with the Commission’s national safety and quality standards and
    in particular Standard 3. As some of you may know I was personally
    involved in some of their development through membership on two of the
    Commission’s committees. Yesterday I enquired of the Commission about
    any publically available information on how the Standards implementation
    is progressing but they are unable to report anything. To my knowledge
    there are no papers in peer-reviewed journals either. The Commission’s
    timeframe for review as stated on their website is 2015.

    I am especially keen to hear in IP-speak 1) the challenges, rewards and
    obstacles that IPs may have faced as a result of Standard 3. 2)How
    “usual” ways of work may have changed and 3) any assistance that would
    make the task of implementing them easier.

    In their Annual Report and at ACIPC 2012 Conference in Sydney the
    Commission referred to HH compliance, C Diff rates and SAB rates as the
    markers they will use to assess Stdnard 3’s impact. I’m more interested
    in the impact on programs or the IP role. Please feel free to share your
    experiences good, bad or indifferent through discussion here or email me
    personally.

    And many thanks for those of you who discussed publically or as a
    sidebar, the issue of single-use pt care equipment – your insights were
    very illuminating.

    Thanks and warm regards

    Cath

    Dr Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD CIC

    Executive Director

    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd

    Adjunct Professor

    Griffith University, School of Nursing and Midwifery

    http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au

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    #70732
    Rebecca O’Donnell
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    Well said Michael..AMS in a private sector is difficult and has proved a huge amount of time taken away from IPCs day. In particular my colleague who has been getting AMS off the ground…she has spent days upon days refining and reviewing procedures, guidelines etc….The workload has been huge….

    Rebecca O’Donnell | Infection Prevention and Control Co-ordinator
    St Vincent’s Hospital Toowoomba | 22-36 Scott Street TOOWOOMBA 4350
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    Hi Cath

    We were accredited via the new Standards by ACHS late last year, and I think the process of having to demonstrate minimum requirements is good. Most of Standard 3 involves things we have been doing for a while (or should have been doing) in infection control, and most of meeting Standard 3 is just closing the loop with documentation and evaluation of what we do. So mostly good – to have all facilities measured against these Standards can only lead to improved patient outcomes, in my opinion.

    My biggest gripe is AMS – AMS is an important infection prevention issue, don’t get me wrong, but ICP’s don’t prescribe antibiotics. In a facility with a standalone ICP (ie not part of a team with ID Physicians and clinical microbiologists) getting medical staff (who, in the private sector, are not even part of the workforce, really) to prescribe according to guidelines is a target way out of reach. Sure, we can audit and put up posters and stuff, but the responsibility for this part of Standard 3 should NOT be upon the facility, in my view, but put back on the medical staff, at least in the private sector. That’s my main gripe within Standard 3.

    Just some thoughts.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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    Greetings all

    One year since their implementation I am wondering how most IPs are coping with the Commission’s national safety and quality standards and in particular Standard 3. As some of you may know I was personally involved in some of their development through membership on two of the Commission’s committees. Yesterday I enquired of the Commission about any publically available information on how the Standards implementation is progressing but they are unable to report anything. To my knowledge there are no papers in peer-reviewed journals either. The Commission’s timeframe for review as stated on their website is 2015.

    I am especially keen to hear in IP-speak 1) the challenges, rewards and obstacles that IPs may have faced as a result of Standard 3. 2)How “usual” ways of work may have changed and 3) any assistance that would make the task of implementing them easier.

    In their Annual Report and at ACIPC 2012 Conference in Sydney the Commission referred to HH compliance, C Diff rates and SAB rates as the markers they will use to assess Stdnard 3’s impact. I’m more interested in the impact on programs or the IP role. Please feel free to share your experiences good, bad or indifferent through discussion here or email me personally.

    And many thanks for those of you who discussed publically or as a sidebar, the issue of single-use pt care equipment – your insights were very illuminating.

    Thanks and warm regards
    Cath

    Dr Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD CIC
    Executive Director
    Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd

    Adjunct Professor
    Griffith University, School of Nursing and Midwifery
    http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au
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