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    Alison Shoobert
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    As a CNC in Infection Prevention I am currently undertaking a project reviewing CSDs across our local health district.

    We have experienced difficulty accessing full versions of the EN and ISO standards listed as “Normative References” to read in conjunction with the AS. The information contained in these documents is needed to fully comprehend AS 4187:2014.

    We are currently seeking funding to expand our subscription to our current standards provider, enabling us access which has a significant associated fee.

    Is there another way…how have others accessed these documents?

    I appreciate your input.

    Alison Shoobert
    CNC Infection Prevention

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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Alison

    We had a similar problem, and had to expand our online subscription to include the specific EN and ISO documents (specifically listed as per the AS/NZS 4187:2014 reference list). It did cost us more, but was not exorbitant I don’t think. You dont need access to every EU and ISO standard.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Alison Shoobert
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    Subject: Accessing EN & ISO Standards

    As a CNC in Infection Prevention I am currently undertaking a project reviewing CSDs across our local health district.

    We have experienced difficulty accessing full versions of the EN and ISO standards listed as “Normative References” to read in conjunction with the AS. The information contained in these documents is needed to fully comprehend AS 4187:2014.

    We are currently seeking funding to expand our subscription to our current standards provider, enabling us access which has a significant associated fee.

    Is there another way…how have others accessed these documents?

    I appreciate your input.

    Alison Shoobert
    CNC Infection Prevention

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    #73446
    Cath Murphy
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    Hi Alison

    Not sure if your library has academic links. If so you may be able to access Australian Standards and perhaps EN and ISO stadnards that way. For example through Griffith Uni I can access a limited few days access to ASs.

    It is completely unrealistic to expect hospitals to access these additional Standards and IMHO a bureaucratic and commercial exercise out of control. It’s also a problem when Guidelines enshrine Aust Standards and the Standards change before the Guideline does (as is the case for several enshrinements in the existing National IC Guidelines.

    Getting workable and easily updateable Guidelines would be a start…Guidelines that can respond to evidence, microbiologic trends and new, emerging technologies which are the most overlooked.

    Our national guidelines are now 6 years old and very outdated. I appreciate that they are under review but I will bet that they will never quite be timely enough or they will remain silent on many critical issues.

    A great example of contemporary guidelines are the EPIC series from the UK.

    Sorry for the rant but it is all related and makes practice hard at the clinical level.

    Cath

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    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Alison Shoobert
    Sent: Monday, 17 October 2016 10:13 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Accessing EN & ISO Standards

    As a CNC in Infection Prevention I am currently undertaking a project reviewing CSDs across our local health district.

    We have experienced difficulty accessing full versions of the EN and ISO standards listed as “Normative References” to read in conjunction with the AS. The information contained in these documents is needed to fully comprehend AS 4187:2014.

    We are currently seeking funding to expand our subscription to our current standards provider, enabling us access which has a significant associated fee.

    Is there another way…how have others accessed these documents?

    I appreciate your input.

    Alison Shoobert
    CNC Infection Prevention

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