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30/01/2018 at 3:36 pm #74249
Hello
hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the ‘application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure’.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource… what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
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30/01/2018 at 4:19 pm #74252HI Lindy,
Our Wound Care CNC has recently asked us the same question. The guideline seems quite useful but we have concerns about the advice that discusses the practice of cutting dressings down to size and using the ‘opened but not used’ remainder for future dressing changes. Sections 5, 6 and 7 are the relevant ones.
What are others’ thoughts?Joanna Harris
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Hello
hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the ‘application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure’.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource… what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance Unit MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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30/01/2018 at 4:21 pm #74253Hi
Page 20 of this consensus highlights the references utilised with many references to infection control and guidelines.
Kind Regards,
Hayley Puckeridge
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Lindy Ryan
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Subject: 2017 Application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure – Wounds Australia publicationHello
hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance Unit MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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31/01/2018 at 9:50 am #74254Hi, I cannot endorse this document as a credible reference source or guideline. I think its a shame because a lot of work went into. It had the potential to be a really valuable document for wound management but in my opinion isnt.
PROS:
It does provide an extensive list of information sources
It does have some good ideas
CONS:I do not agree with all of the content in this document from an infection control perspective
It didnt go through a formal endorsement process, so I cannot be assured of the quality of the information or even if journal articles were peer reviewed.
The document was not sent for wider consultation to appropriate governing bodies or to ICPs, so I cannot be sure (without in depth checking) that it meets the required standards or is consistent with other guidelines/policies currently in use.
Kind Regards,
Donna Schmidt
Clinical Nurse Consultant Infection Control – Primary & Community Health
Rosemeadow Community Health Centre
5 Thomas Rose Drive, Rosemeadow, NSW, 2560
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Subject: Re: 2017 Application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure – Wounds Australia publicationHi
Page 20 of this consensus highlights the references utilised with many references to infection control and guidelines.
Kind Regards,
Hayley Puckeridge
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Lindy Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2018 3:37 PM
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Subject: 2017 Application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure – Wounds Australia publicationHello
hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance Unit MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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31/01/2018 at 10:11 am #74255Anonymous
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I had not seen it before. Page 13 does outline where it may be appropriate to keep opened dressings for reuse. Hospital inpatient is not one of them. Often in the community setting they have no choice so it does give reasonable guidance for those areas and risk assessment -section 6 including exclusion criteria.
Personally not a fan of using a cleaned over bed table in the hospital setting to do a dressing on and we completely discourage it.
I haven’t looked at every page in depth but I did notice there are no recent references (ie last 5 years) but maybe there is a lack of literature.Just my thoughts.
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hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the ‘application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure’.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource… what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance Unit MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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31/01/2018 at 1:21 pm #74256Hi Lindy et al,
We became aware of this document following its release during Wound Awareness Week last year (October 2017). Our Community CNC raised concerns here in Tasmania with the Wound Care Practitioners. In particular the following areas
* Recommendation in support of re-use for single-use scissors to cut primary dressings
* Use of open but unused dressings is also inconsistent with the contemporary aseptic technique frameworks
* Open but unused dressings being recommended for retention for up to 4 weeks
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11901416?doptabstract
Our concerns specifically centred around the messages that seemed to be at odds with contemporary aseptic technique framework as promoted by the NHMRC and ACIPC. As ANTT in particular was developed to remove varying practices by having a process from ‘Community to Hospital’, we were quite concerned.
Our CNC did make contact with Wounds Australia. I am unaware of a formal response. We held a local meeting with our Wound Care Practitioner and local Management. We developed a local area health communication in relation to our response to the document. Our response was that whilst we acknowledge this document that we were endorsing a single approach in our region consistent with ANTT.
ACIPC and/or Sue Atkins may like to comment further as I note that Sue was listed as a contributor.
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Hobart, 7000Hello
hope you are all having a lovey day
Just wondering if anyone has come across this 2017 document developed by Wounds Australia called the ‘application of aseptic technique in wound dressing procedure’.
It is a consensus document put out by Wound Australiana that I have been approached by staff in regards to them in using & developing local processes and procedures .I am uncertain with whom they may have consulted with from Infection control perspective in developing their consensus as on face value it looks like a useful resource… what are others thoughts?
kind regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance Unit MNCLHD
Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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