Select Page

Re: Portable fans

Home Forums Infexion Connexion Portable fans Re: Portable fans Re: Portable fans

#69476 Quote
Gerald Cha
Participant

Author:
Gerald Cha

Position:

Organisation:

State:

Thanks Rosie, Michael and all for your responses.
I was hoping for a study that at least attempted to demonstrate that
common skin pathogens do get dispersed quite significantly by fans…
understandably, this is an obvious “common sense” thing to ICPs but
surprisingly, to the general public (and even for some nurses), this
doesn’t click.
This generation demands for evidence for everything (and rightly so if
we can back ourselves up with that).
It would be great if a study was done whereby MSSA/MRSA positive
patients cared for in 2 controlled environments, either a vinyl floor
single room or a carpeted single room, then utilised fans (which have
been cleaned) and we compared culture plates (or an air sampling device
fit for this) placed vertically in the direct air stream of the fans
(one at a closer proximity to the fan and maybe another placed past the
patient)… obviously this needs more looking into! 🙂
I am not a fan (pardon the pun!) of fans nor do I like carpets in a
healthcare setting but there hasn’t been any strong supportive evidence
to support what would be seen as obvious IC concerns.
I guess cleaning and a risk assessment would be the way to go for now.
Thanks again for all comments/feedback.
Regards,
Gerald

Gerald Chan
Coordinator Infection Control

St John of God Murdoch Hospital
100 Murdoch Drive
MURDOCH. WA 6150

P: 9366 1552
M: 0405 495 906 (7804)
F: 9311 4685
E: Gerald.Chan@sjog.org.au
W: http://www.sjog.org.au/murdoch

facebook.com/stjohnofgodmurdoch (
http://www.facebook.com/stjohnofgodmurdoch )
twitter.com/sjgh_murdoch ( http://www.twitter.com/sjgh_murdoch )
>>> “Lee, Rosie” 26/10/2012 7:46 AM >>>

Hi Gerald
I would agree Michael. It is not possible to have a study proving every
item does not result in infection. Using infection control principles
blowing air in a ward environment cannot be a good principle. If a
patient is heavily colonised with an antibiotic resistant organism (ARO)
then blowing skin squames will result in contamination. There are many
studies indicating contamination linked to AROs in particular MRSA
across the ward. Risk assessment may have to be used.

Regards
Rosie
Rosie Lee
RN. BSc. CICP
Coordinator Infection Prevention & Management
SMH Service – Royal Perth Hospital
Ph + 61 8 9224 2805 Fax + 61 8 9224 1989
IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email (including any
attachments) may be privileged and confidential. Any unauthorised use
of its contents is expressly prohibited. If you received this email in
error, please advise me by reply email or telephone

Behalf Of Michael Wishart

Hi Gerard

I recall seeing a study years ago, I think UK based so maybe in JHI,
that showed MRSA in dust on portable fans. Never have seen anything that
linked increase in MRSA or HAI directly to portable fans, though; that
would be epidemiologically difficult to show, I think. Too many other
variables.

Doesn’t mean fans are not bad, though. 🙂 Especially when not
maintained well. Ask if they cleaned thoroughly (meaning the fan blades)
between each patient use. I suspect not!

Cheers
Michael

Michael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3326 3523
e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au (
https://mail.svhac.org.au/OWA/UrlBlockedError.aspx )
Please consider the environment before printing this email

( http://www.acipcconference.com.au/ )

Gerald Chan [Gerald.Chan@SJOG.ORG.AU]

Dear all,

I’m looking for evidence to back us up on not having fans in patient
rooms (especially seeing that summer is around the corner).

I can’t seem to locate any supportive articles on this.

Has there been any studies done that demonstrate an increased rate of
infection/colonisation (MRSA, MSSA, etc.) through fan usage in a
healthcare setting?

Cheers,

Gerald

Gerald Chan

Coordinator Infection Control

St John of God Murdoch Hospital
100 Murdoch Drive
MURDOCH. WA 6150

P: 9366 1552

M: 0405 495 906 (7804)
F: 9311 4685

E: Gerald.Chan@sjog.org.au

W: http://www.sjog.org.au/murdoch

facebook.com/stjohnofgodmurdoch (
http://www.facebook.com/stjohnofgodmurdoch )

twitter.com/sjgh_murdoch ( http://www.twitter.com/sjgh_murdoch )

intended recipient. They may contain confidential or privileged
information. This information may not necessarily be the view of St John
of God Health Care Inc (SJGHC). SJGHC does not warrant, represent or
guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information. SJGHC does
not accept liability for any loss or damage in connection with the
information. If you are not the intended recipient then any use,
reliance, interference with, disclosure, distribution or copying of this
information by you is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received
this email in error then please notify the sender by return email and
delete all copies. SJGHC does not waive any privilege.

Messages posted to this list are solely the opinion of the authors, and
do not represent the opinion of ACIPC.
Archive of all messages are available at
http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a
new message send an email to aicalist@aicalist.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to
aicalist-request@aicalist.org.au.
You can unsubscribe from this list be sending ‘signoff aicalist’
(without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au
Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and
content filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg

Report this message as spam (
https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1FOWVN54TM/hnvZFaTkeJnkUxLjlJBW1/0.192
)

WARNING : This email contains information, which is CONFIDENTIAL, and
that maybe subject to LEGAL PRIVILEGE. This e-mail and any attachments
to it (the “Communication”) is confidential and is for the use only of
the intended recipient, and may not duplicated or used by any other
party without the express consent of the sender. The Communication may
contain copyright material of St Vincent’s Health & Aged Care(“SVHAC”),
or any of its related entities or of third parties. If you are not the
intended recipient of the Communication, please notify the sender
immediately by return e-mail, delete the Communication, and do not read,
copy, print, retransmit, store or act in reliance on the Communication.
Any views expressed in the Communication are those of the individual
sender only, unless expressly stated to be those of SVHAC. SVHAC does
not guarantee the integrity of the Communication, or that it is free
from errors, viruses or interference. Thank-you.

Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and
content filtering.
http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg
Messages posted to this list are solely the opinion of the authors, and
do not represent the opinion of ACIPC.
Archive of all messages are available at
http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a
new message send an email to aicalist@aicalist.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to
aicalist-request@aicalist.org.au.
You can unsubscribe from this list be sending ‘signoff aicalist’
(without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au Messages posted to this
list are solely the opinion of the authors, and do not represent the
opinion of ACIPC.
Archive of all messages are available at
http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a
new message send an email to aicalist@aicalist.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to
aicalist-request@aicalist.org.au.
You can unsubscribe from this list be sending ‘signoff aicalist’
(without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au
intended recipient. They may contain confidential or privileged
information. This information may not necessarily be the view of St John
of God Health Care Inc (SJGHC). SJGHC does not warrant, represent or
guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information. SJGHC does
not accept liability for any loss or damage in connection with the
information. If you are not the intended recipient then any use,
reliance, interference with, disclosure, distribution or copying of this
information by you is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received
this email in error then please notify the sender by return email and
delete all copies. SJGHC does not waive any privilege.

Messages posted to this list are solely the opinion of the authors, and do not represent the opinion of ACIPC.

Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.

Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new message send an email to aicalist@aicalist.org.au

To send a message to the list administrator send an email to aicalist-request@aicalist.org.au.

You can unsubscribe from this list be sending ‘signoff aicalist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au