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Dear Michael
I agree with your comments. While we all hate wastage, it is essential that PPE is protective.
We use expired PPE for training and not for patient care.
Kind regards
Trish
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Dr Patricia Ferguson FRACP PhD
Infectious Diseases Physician
Senior Staff Specialist, Westmead Hospital
Associate Director, Education and Training
NSW Biocontainment Centre
Clincal Senior Lecturer, The University of Sydney
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 8:56 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns
I think we need to be careful when we make decisions about using stock that has passed a manufacturers expiry date. Products are often tested, eg in regard to deterioration in specific storage conditions, to see if the item will remain fit-for-purpose.
If we decide to use items that have passed manufacturer recommendations, we need to have some assurance that the items still remain fit-for-purpose. Otherwise we could find ourselves facing questions about why we allowed something if any concerns are raised, which can result in problems for an organisation.
Its not just about sterility concerns when thinking about expiry dates. Its very important that items remain fit-for-purpose, and continue to meet appropriate standards.
Cheers
Michael
Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 6:03 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns
Hi Karen
I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.
Sarah
[BlueCross]
Sarah
Gaines Hill
Infection Prevention Manager
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Karen Kemp
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 10:26 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns
Good morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.
We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
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