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Regarding Brians comments. Just to clarify my assumptions

The surface is not directly sprayed or misted because of splashback which would be more forceful with spray than mist if sprayed directly but if a pour bottle is used then the product is poured very close to the surface to avoid splash or applied to a paper towel / cloth first. If a single use spray bottle is used then the product is sprayed close to the cloth paper towel to reduce inhalation

My other issue apart from inhalation of mists or sprays and splashback risk is attempted reuse of spray mechanisms for diluted product which may result in recontamination of the product.

The above refer to cleaners but for staff during working hours who need to spot clean I recommend detergent wipes and during the pandemic I recommend 2 in 1 step detergent/disinfectant wipes for twice daily spot decontamination of high touch points by staff.

I do not recommend wipes for cleaners except where a bulky cloth/paper towel would not reach a surface wipes are not for broad surfaces in any case.

And we are discussing non perfumed, close to neutral pH products for surface compatibility?

Let the discussion commence?

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Margaret Jennings

Marjen Education Services

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Is this not a question of droplet vs aerosol. Pump action spray bottles aimed at a surface would pose a very limited risk. They are droplet. I think risk of overpour poses a greater risk. Sorry but I think thee be overly concerned.

Brian Moore

RN BHScN

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, 7:34 pm Margie Evans, <margieevans5@gmail.com > wrote:

Hi Michael

I have had the same practice of ensuring pour caps were use and not spray. Apart from the reasons youve given, the mist needed to be contained especially for those with the increasing chemical allergies in both staff and patients.

However I too will be interested if thinking has changed.

Kind regards

Margie Evans

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On 24 Feb 2022, at 4:55 pm, Cate Coffey <Cate.Coffey@nt.gov.au > wrote:

They are still not the best as spray bottles are rarely cleaned increasing risk of contamination of pathogens. We use pour bottles that are disposable.

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Cate Coffey

RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing

Clinical Nurse Manager

Central Australia Health Service

Department of Health

Northern Territory Government

Infection Prevention and Control Unit

Alice Springs Hospital
PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871

cate.coffey@nt.gov.au

t. 08 8951 7737

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Just a general, random, not directly related to COVID-19 question.

Do you allow spray bottles to be used for dispensing routine environmental or equipment cleaning chemicals within your facility (any healthcare facility hospital, aged care, office practice)?

I had always been of the opinion that dispensing cleaning chemicals by spraying onto surfaces in a healthcare environment was not preferred, due to overspray, vapours and mists, but now I have been approached to endorse a cleaning product that ONLY comes in a spray bottle option (or a misting machine which we are definitely not considering for routine cleaning!)

Do I need to upgrade my thinking, or are spray bottles still not the best option (even with disposable bottles and spray attachments)?

Happy for any comments on this.

Cheers

Michael

Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

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